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Hell and God cant Co-exist.
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 RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 2:15 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2016 at 2:16 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 2, 2016 at 2:04 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: It was a serious question. You won't answer it because either you have to say yes or say that God is not omnipresent. I'm asking a childish question to poke holes in your childish beliefs. He already answered: (June 2, 2016 at 12:47 pm)SteveII Wrote: The supposed paradox is created by not understanding omnipresence. God is present everywhere in the sense that he knows what is happening and sustains his creation in being. That would apply to Hell as well. Yes, we believe God knows what is happening in every inch of your body, if that wasn't already made clear to you in the bolded above. Your question doesn't "poke a hole" at all. You asked a "childish question", as you put it yourself, to make fun of his beliefs. I'm not sure how you can call that a serious question in the same breath. I don't blame him for not wasting his time entertaining someone who's only purpose is to be condescending and has no interested in actual discussion but just here to be a pompous ass hole. Congratulations. Anyway, I should follow suit.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh   RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 2:21 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2016 at 2:31 pm by ApeNotKillApe.)
I know that the moon is orbiting the Earth, doesn't mean I'm on the moon.
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 RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 2:29 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2016 at 2:30 pm by Homeless Nutter.)
(June 2, 2016 at 2:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(June 2, 2016 at 2:04 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: It was a serious question. You won't answer it because either you have to say yes or say that God is not omnipresent. I'm asking a childish question to poke holes in your childish beliefs. Funny, that - because that's NOT what omnipresent means. He just made up his own definition that suits him - and perhaps other irrational people - but is meaningless and useless for anyone else. omnipresent ɒmnɪˈprɛz(ə)nt/ adjective
See - nothing about "knowing what's happening". What he is - and you are - talking about is "omniscience". Try to keep your magical nonsense straight, would you? Else we're bound to think you're making it up as it's convenient for you.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
 (June 2, 2016 at 9:59 am)Drich Wrote: You may not understand this but there is a vast difference between the God described by the bible, and the god who has been created by the religions of men. "You may not understand this but there is a vast difference between the god described by the crayon, and the god who has been created by the religions of men." They are exactly the same thing. All gods are created by man and no gods exist.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy 
You want to reasonably discuss delusions? I think I see your problem.
(June 2, 2016 at 2:21 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: I know that the moon is orbiting the Earth, doesn't mean I'm on the moon. You're thinking of it in terms of the material world though. Remember, we believe God is in an entirely different dimension all together and isn't bound by the laws of time or space. No, God isn't "physically present" in your butt hole as you would be or wouldn't be on the moon. You know the moon is orbiting the Earth, but you can't see all of it all at once at all times and don't know what is happening on it at every second, so that's not comparable either. We believe God is a much more advanced being than us and so He is capable of things that we cannot even fully comprehend. Just as a chicken cannot comprehend concepts that we as humans can.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh  (June 2, 2016 at 2:52 pm)SteveII Wrote: Perhaps there is something in there that you would like to reasonably discuss? My hat is off to you, Steve. Your patience for suffering fools is truly impressive. Cannot help but notice how the atheists lately have been getting their collective asses handed to them on a plate on the philosophical issues. Thank you for showing them what ignorant and petulant children they are being. |
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