So, has BlueGirl responded to the 11 pages left in her wake?

(June 16, 2016 at 9:46 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: So, has BlueGirl responded to the 11 pages left in her wake?

Nope she used what's called abandon thread

(June 16, 2016 at 6:53 pm)Losty Wrote: It's not an indoctrinated failing, it's a human reaction.

If someone says they hate what you think and they find it horrible and objectionable and stupid, you're likely to feel like they think that about you too.

The category error is their own issue.

The ability to take criticism without getting hurt is a crucial part of adulthood.

Of course, this assumes that the criticism is cogent, rational, and neutral in tone.

(June 16, 2016 at 9:46 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: So, has BlueGirl responded to the 11 pages left in her wake?

Looks like a shit-n-run to me.

Not a bad conversation coming out of it, though. Who needs the OP to participate when then conversation takes on a life of its own?

Hang on Thump? Didn't you just say the ends doesn't justify the means?


Hehe ...just fucking around.....I'm bored....
Good stuff...

Late as usual, but this immediately came to mind after reading the OP:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8V_hCqO6UQs

(June 16, 2016 at 11:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 6:53 pm)Losty Wrote: It's not an indoctrinated failing, it's a human reaction.

If someone says they hate what you think and they find it horrible and objectionable and stupid, you're likely to feel like they think that about you too.

The category error is their own issue.

The ability to take criticism without getting hurt is a crucial part of adulthood.

Of course, this assumes that the criticism is cogent, rational, and neutral in tone.

My point is that being shit at accepting criticism is a human fault not some kind of theist issue. People struggle with it across the board and many theists don't struggle with it at all.

(June 16, 2016 at 11:50 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Hang on Thump? Didn't you just say the ends doesn't justify the means?


Hehe ...just fucking around.....I'm bored....
Good stuff...

Nah, I just said the Law of Unintended Consequences kicks ass, brotha.

Entirely different kettle of fish.

Also, stop being bored. Now!

(June 17, 2016 at 12:11 am)Losty Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 11:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The category error is their own issue.

The ability to take criticism without getting hurt is a crucial part of adulthood.

Of course, this assumes that the criticism is cogent, rational, and neutral in tone.

My point is that being shit at accepting criticism is a human fault not some kind of theist issue. People struggle with it across the board and many theists don't struggle with it at all.

And my point is that with a preconceived construct which places high value on conformity in place, criticism from outside is more easily deflected.

Not every human is shit at accepting criticism. Religion, however, increases the likelihood of that being the case. Don't take my word for it ... disagree with any religionist online and criticize their beliefs, and see how they respond. Do the same with atheists. Tally up the resulting butthurt.

The personal investment in believing in a personal god is, I think, quite a bit higher than the personal investment in saying "meh, I don't believe."

(June 16, 2016 at 6:44 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Guys, you know how most respect the person but not the beliefs.

As mentioned elsewhere, some theists have trouble differentiating between the two.
This is why they take it as a personal insult.
Is this an indoctrinated failing on their behalf?

We know for a fact that indoctrination has the potential to cause people to disown their own children, let them die as a result of not obtaining medical help, etc.

All this stems from the "one true god, no other gods" belief.
If you are genuinely religious, you shouldn't be tolerant of people who think differently.
Otherwise, you're not a true Christian or Muslim.

This is the divisive crux which ensures religion's survival.
Theists, this is why we hate religions.
Religions are devised so as to not tolerate or respect other religions or beliefs.

Ig,

The two don't separate as easily as you make it look in my opinion. A person's beliefs often become a part of their personal identity, and once they are an integral part of your self image, maybe you partly draw your sense of self-worth from them (who am I? a believer, servant of God - this justifies my existence /actions/life choices and gives me a purpose beyond mundane things), an attack on these ideas is in fact an attack on the person. The two things don't factorize, a physicist would say. Disagree?