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RE: Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?
June 21, 2016 at 4:15 am
(June 21, 2016 at 3:30 am)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(June 21, 2016 at 12:12 am)bennyboy Wrote: I don't want to be rude or anything, but. . . stfu. This is a science thread, and has nothing to do with your fucking fairy tale. Off to the religion section for you. Go on, git. Git now, ya hear?
Lakum dinakum wa liyadin "To you be your way of belief and to me be my way of belief"
That's great. Keep your beliefs on your own way.
We didn't gather here for your convenient preaching. Put you religious shitposting in religious subforums here and leave it out of the science subforums.
RE: Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?
June 21, 2016 at 5:25 am
(June 21, 2016 at 3:51 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: Modern science has only recently proven that the water covers 71.111% of the Earth, while the land covers 28.889% totaling EXACTLY 100%. So this is water on the Earth's surface. Not rain and snow and ice and glaciers but the water that actually covers the surface of the Earth is EXACTLY 71.111%. At the center of the Earth is the core, which has two parts. The solid, inner core of iron has a radius of about 760 miles (about 1,220 km). It is surrounded by a liquid, outer core composed of a nickel-iron alloy. Sep 26, 2012. The inner core of IRON is the EXACT MIDDLE of the Earth just as Chapter 57 Al-Hadyd " The Iron" is EXACTLY the middle of The Qur'an. So I appreciate u sharing that with me because it helped me to become more knowledgeable of the differences between the inner and outer core of our planet. However u still see from this scientific knowledge listed here The EXACT center of the Earth does consist of IRON which is one of the miracles that was listed. So I thank u my friend for supporting my point.
All of that shit you've just regurgitated is incorrect. The earth has about 71% of its surface covered by water (where are you seeing 71.11%?) but that's only if you include ice and snow, including the polar ice caps. I provided a link which breaks it down for you. The earth's core is iron-nickel and solid, not iron and liquid. There is no "exact" middle of the earth since the earth is not a perfect sphere.
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RE: Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?
June 21, 2016 at 8:23 am
(June 20, 2016 at 11:42 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(June 20, 2016 at 6:26 am)Stimbo Wrote: And how could we set about finding which, if either, "way of belief" might be nearer the truth?
That's what God does, send His signs in the Qur'an to show that this scripture could only come from Him alone.
His revelation in the Torah (Old Testament) and Gospel (New Testament) were also His true revelations that He revealed alone to mankind. But men added things to these scriptures which have been changed over and over again throughout time. It even says in Jeremiah 8:8. "How can you say that we are wise and have the law of The Lord when the lying pens of the scribes have falsified it"? But what the Qur'an does is confirms the truth of things revealed in the Torah and the Gospel, but it also corrects the falsehood that mankind has added to them. God always sent His word to people through His prophets/messengers pbut all, with miracles according to what the peoples' lifestyles were. For example in Moses' pbuh time the people were vain of their knowledge of magic and illusion. So God sent Moses pbuh who through God's power and will turned his rod into a serpent, and parted the Red Sea. God showed the people His power and might through His messenger Moses pbuh, things that those people, who were vain of their knowledge of magic, could never do. What magic could they come up with that could do these things? In Jesus' pbuh time the people were vain of their knowledge of medicine. So God showed His power through His messenger Jesus pbuh things that these medically vain people could never do. Such as impregnate a virgin woman, heal lepers, cure the blind, and even bring a dead man back to life. What medicine could they come up with that could do these things? Now in Muhammad's pbuh time the people were vain of their knowledge of poetry, linguistics, science, and mathematics. So God sent the final scripture to mankind through His messenger Muhammad pbuh, a man who could neither read nor write, showing no human could produce it. The 23 years of revealing the Qur'anic scripture, which not only gives God's laws to mankind, but the verses rhyme in their original revealed Arabic language which is still preserved to this day, covering the poetic miracle, and as shown contains linguistic, scientific, mathematical, and even astronomical miracles, all categories which the people of that time "thought they knew so much about" and what people to this day " think they know so much about". And with our technology today we are verifying the Qur'anic miracles, that we have been blessed by God to learn about are precise to the "T". So just as God did with all people since the beginning of mankind, He sent a prophet or messenger pbut all, with signs from Himself. This way the prophet/messenger pbuh could relay the message in the language that his people spoke so they could understand. All were sent from God with the same message to worship only 1 God and Him alone, associating no partners with Him in worship. There were over 120,000 prophets pbut all, since the beginning of mankind sent to every single nation of people God created. However the Prophet Muhammad pbuh was not only sent for the one nation of Arabs but he was sent for ALL MANKIND for all eternity. He was an Arab and spoke Arabic and relayed the message in that language. This is why we call God "Allah" which is simply the Arabic name for God. Just as "Yahweh" is God in Hebrew, and "God" is God in English, and "Dios" is God in Spanish, they are all different languages referring to the same One, Supreme Being. We also call ourselves "Muslims" which is Arabic for "One who submits to God's will". This is why we say all prophets pbut all were Muslims. They all submitted to God's will. Now of course if they didn't speak Arabic then they would call themselves the equivalent definition in the language they spoke. So to sum up, the Qur'an is a miracle within itself sent as a sign for mankind to judge by and to see that it could only be produced by God Allah Himself.
That's not a pathway to truth; pointing out parts of the claim doesn't substantiate the claim as a whole any more than does my saying that Darth Vader existed in history because of the phrase "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away".
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?
June 21, 2016 at 8:27 am
(June 21, 2016 at 3:30 am)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(June 21, 2016 at 12:12 am)bennyboy Wrote: I don't want to be rude or anything, but. . . stfu. This is a science thread, and has nothing to do with your fucking fairy tale. Off to the religion section for you. Go on, git. Git now, ya hear?
Lakum dinakum wa liyadin "To you be your way of belief and to me be my way of belief"
If religious belief was just one percent as testable as science, we would never again have these sorts of disagreements.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?
June 21, 2016 at 1:36 pm
(June 20, 2016 at 10:03 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(June 19, 2016 at 10:27 pm)IATIA Wrote: With enough twisting and contorting anything can be made to sound 'true' to the weak-minded. It is called brain-washing and you have it bad. Sorry.
I'll just use a few of the miracles I listed.
So u seem to think that the knowledge given from a scripture with religious commands and laws, but just happens to have for instance the word "land" mentioned through its 6,236 verses EXACTLY 13 times and the word "sea" EXACTLY 32 times, 32+13=45 13/45=28.89% and 32/45=71.11% THE EXACT PERCENTAGES of LAND AND WATER that cover our planet today, comes from some human being? Or the alphanumerical value of "Al-Hadyd" (The Iron), Chapter 57 of the Qur'an, which is EXACTLY half of the 114 total chapters. With Arabic alphanumeric the H=8 D=4 Y=10 D=4 totaling 26. Isn't it remarkable that the atomic number for iron is, as it always has been, even before the 7th century when the Qur'an was first revealed to mankind, is 26? But then to take it a step further so it can't be called "just a coincidence", when u add the article "Al" meaning The in Arabic, making it The Iron the alphanumerical value of A=1 and L=30 totaling 31 added to the already calculated 26=57 which is also the EXACT number of the chapter of the Qur'an. And to go even one step further. If the Qur'an was cut exactly in half which is at chapter 57 The iron and if the Earth was cut exactly in half showing the Earth's core it consists of molten IRON. Is this something a human being knew in the 7th century when technology did not even yet exist?
Sheed, you got to remember something, we didn't believe your bullshit the first time, the second time, the third time, right now and we'll not believe it any time you produce it in future.
RE: Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?
June 21, 2016 at 2:33 pm
(June 21, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote:
(June 20, 2016 at 10:03 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: I'll just use a few of the miracles I listed.
So u seem to think that the knowledge given from a scripture with religious commands and laws, but just happens to have for instance the word "land" mentioned through its 6,236 verses EXACTLY 13 times and the word "sea" EXACTLY 32 times, 32+13=45 13/45=28.89% and 32/45=71.11% THE EXACT PERCENTAGES of LAND AND WATER that cover our planet today, comes from some human being? Or the alphanumerical value of "Al-Hadyd" (The Iron), Chapter 57 of the Qur'an, which is EXACTLY half of the 114 total chapters. With Arabic alphanumeric the H=8 D=4 Y=10 D=4 totaling 26. Isn't it remarkable that the atomic number for iron is, as it always has been, even before the 7th century when the Qur'an was first revealed to mankind, is 26? But then to take it a step further so it can't be called "just a coincidence", when u add the article "Al" meaning The in Arabic, making it The Iron the alphanumerical value of A=1 and L=30 totaling 31 added to the already calculated 26=57 which is also the EXACT number of the chapter of the Qur'an. And to go even one step further. If the Qur'an was cut exactly in half which is at chapter 57 The iron and if the Earth was cut exactly in half showing the Earth's core it consists of molten IRON. Is this something a human being knew in the 7th century when technology did not even yet exist?
Sheed, you got to remember something, we didn't believe your bullshit the first time, the second time, the third time, right now and we'll not believe it any time you produce it in future.
And that is ur prerogative. But just because u don't believe it doesn't mean it's not true. The truth will always prevail whether u believe it or not. So I'm not trying to make u believe in the Qur'an as God's word, that is not in my power to do. But I do show that the miracles of the Qur'an is factual
knowledge from The Most High, which neither u nor anyone else, whether u believe it or not, can say is untrue.
RE: Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?
June 21, 2016 at 2:39 pm
(June 21, 2016 at 8:23 am)Stimbo Wrote:
(June 20, 2016 at 11:42 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: That's what God does, send His signs in the Qur'an to show that this scripture could only come from Him alone.
His revelation in the Torah (Old Testament) and Gospel (New Testament) were also His true revelations that He revealed alone to mankind. But men added things to these scriptures which have been changed over and over again throughout time. It even says in Jeremiah 8:8. "How can you say that we are wise and have the law of The Lord when the lying pens of the scribes have falsified it"? But what the Qur'an does is confirms the truth of things revealed in the Torah and the Gospel, but it also corrects the falsehood that mankind has added to them. God always sent His word to people through His prophets/messengers pbut all, with miracles according to what the peoples' lifestyles were. For example in Moses' pbuh time the people were vain of their knowledge of magic and illusion. So God sent Moses pbuh who through God's power and will turned his rod into a serpent, and parted the Red Sea. God showed the people His power and might through His messenger Moses pbuh, things that those people, who were vain of their knowledge of magic, could never do. What magic could they come up with that could do these things? In Jesus' pbuh time the people were vain of their knowledge of medicine. So God showed His power through His messenger Jesus pbuh things that these medically vain people could never do. Such as impregnate a virgin woman, heal lepers, cure the blind, and even bring a dead man back to life. What medicine could they come up with that could do these things? Now in Muhammad's pbuh time the people were vain of their knowledge of poetry, linguistics, science, and mathematics. So God sent the final scripture to mankind through His messenger Muhammad pbuh, a man who could neither read nor write, showing no human could produce it. The 23 years of revealing the Qur'anic scripture, which not only gives God's laws to mankind, but the verses rhyme in their original revealed Arabic language which is still preserved to this day, covering the poetic miracle, and as shown contains linguistic, scientific, mathematical, and even astronomical miracles, all categories which the people of that time "thought they knew so much about" and what people to this day " think they know so much about". And with our technology today we are verifying the Qur'anic miracles, that we have been blessed by God to learn about are precise to the "T". So just as God did with all people since the beginning of mankind, He sent a prophet or messenger pbut all, with signs from Himself. This way the prophet/messenger pbuh could relay the message in the language that his people spoke so they could understand. All were sent from God with the same message to worship only 1 God and Him alone, associating no partners with Him in worship. There were over 120,000 prophets pbut all, since the beginning of mankind sent to every single nation of people God created. However the Prophet Muhammad pbuh was not only sent for the one nation of Arabs but he was sent for ALL MANKIND for all eternity. He was an Arab and spoke Arabic and relayed the message in that language. This is why we call God "Allah" which is simply the Arabic name for God. Just as "Yahweh" is God in Hebrew, and "God" is God in English, and "Dios" is God in Spanish, they are all different languages referring to the same One, Supreme Being. We also call ourselves "Muslims" which is Arabic for "One who submits to God's will". This is why we say all prophets pbut all were Muslims. They all submitted to God's will. Now of course if they didn't speak Arabic then they would call themselves the equivalent definition in the language they spoke. So to sum up, the Qur'an is a miracle within itself sent as a sign for mankind to judge by and to see that it could only be produced by God Allah Himself.
That's not a pathway to truth; pointing out parts of the claim doesn't substantiate the claim as a whole any more than does my saying that Darth Vader existed in history because of the phrase "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away".
So who besides The Most High God Almighty, had this knowledge of these true factual statements, about science and astronomy, and mathematics in the 7th century, when technology (microscopes, telescopes, computers, man-made satellites etc.) did not exist?
RE: Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?
June 21, 2016 at 3:03 pm
(June 21, 2016 at 5:25 am)Aractus Wrote:
(June 21, 2016 at 3:51 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: Modern science has only recently proven that the water covers 71.111% of the Earth, while the land covers 28.889% totaling EXACTLY 100%. So this is water on the Earth's surface. Not rain and snow and ice and glaciers but the water that actually covers the surface of the Earth is EXACTLY 71.111%. At the center of the Earth is the core, which has two parts. The solid, inner core of iron has a radius of about 760 miles (about 1,220 km). It is surrounded by a liquid, outer core composed of a nickel-iron alloy. Sep 26, 2012. The inner core of IRON is the EXACT MIDDLE of the Earth just as Chapter 57 Al-Hadyd " The Iron" is EXACTLY the middle of The Qur'an. So I appreciate u sharing that with me because it helped me to become more knowledgeable of the differences between the inner and outer core of our planet. However u still see from this scientific knowledge listed here The EXACT center of the Earth does consist of IRON which is one of the miracles that was listed. So I thank u my friend for supporting my point.
All of that shit you've just regurgitated is incorrect. The earth has about 71% of its surface covered by water (where are you seeing 71.11%?) but that's only if you include ice and snow, including the polar ice caps. I provided a link which breaks it down for you. The earth's core is iron-nickel and solid, not iron and liquid. There is no "exact" middle of the earth since the earth is not a perfect sphere.
Just to play devil's advocate let's say I agree with u that the core is nickel and IRON. U still see the element of IRON in the core. Now if u proved to me that the core does not contain IRON at all then my statement would be useless. But it is very interesting to see that IRON is in the core. Just because the Earth isn't a perfect sphere doesn't mean it doesn't have an exact center. We as humans aren't shaped perfectly as a particular shape but I guarantee there is some point in each of our bodies that is our EXACT CENTER. Then u dug urself an even deeper hole to climb out of when u said The Earth surface is ABOUT 71% covered in water. 71.111% is ABOUT 71% less than .1% difference that's really close to or as u say ABOUT 71%. here's the link to verify the scientific confirmation of that water.usgs.gov/edu/earthhowmuch.html
RE: Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?
June 21, 2016 at 3:14 pm
(June 21, 2016 at 4:15 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(June 21, 2016 at 3:30 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: Lakum dinakum wa liyadin "To you be your way of belief and to me be my way of belief"
That's great. Keep your beliefs on your own way.
We didn't gather here for your convenient preaching. Put you religious shitposting in religious subforums here and leave it out of the science subforums.
Asshole.
Hey I never said one single offensive word towards ur's or anyone else's belief or lack thereof. But u can call me whatever u like, I promise u I won't lose any sleep over it. But I must say the truth hurts sometimes, especially when u don't believe in it. And even more when u cannot prove it as untrue. So my goal here is not to change ur belief or lack thereof, I have no power to do that. But I have shown with scientific, astronomical, and mathematical support and facts that the Qur'an contains miraculous knowledge and information which can come from no human being but only from God Allah Himself. And as God says in The Qur'an 18:29 "For he who wishes to believe let him believe and he who wishes to disbelieve let him disbelieve". Ur not affecting me in anyway
RE: Dear stupid: how many times does the earth rotate in a year?
June 21, 2016 at 4:48 pm
(June 21, 2016 at 3:14 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(June 21, 2016 at 4:15 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: That's great. Keep your beliefs on your own way.
We didn't gather here for your convenient preaching. Put you religious shitposting in religious subforums here and leave it out of the science subforums.
Asshole.
Hey I never said one single offensive word towards ur's or anyone else's belief or lack thereof. But u can call me whatever u like, I promise u I won't lose any sleep over it. But I must say the truth hurts sometimes, especially when u don't believe in it. And even more when u cannot prove it as untrue. So my goal here is not to change ur belief or lack thereof, I have no power to do that. But I have shown with scientific, astronomical, and mathematical support and facts that the Qur'an contains miraculous knowledge and information which can come from no human being but only from God Allah Himself. And as God says in The Qur'an 18:29 "For he who wishes to believe let him believe and he who wishes to disbelieve let him disbelieve". Ur not affecting me in anyway
Hey, I don't go to Islamic forums and start telling everyone there that Allah's imaginary.
The fact that you can't find it in yourself to reciprocate the courtesy makes you an asshole.
This thread is about science, not your delusions, not your preachments.
