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RE: UK to leave EU
June 24, 2016 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2016 at 5:23 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 24, 2016 at 5:12 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 5:08 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That's right, it shouldn't be us that gets to you, it should be what you've just done. 
In a single day, the detractors of brexit have had their predictions undeniably, inarguably demonstrated to have been correct...and yet people are saying "wait and see".. Wait to see -what-?
Everyone I spoke to who voted leave said that we would absolutely see this shock in the short term. Where the 'experts' have it wrong is the medium to long term. People are literally saying this country is irreparably damaged as a result of this. We will bloody wait and see about exactly that.
No, we won't, we've already seen it. Recovery cant make that money reappear (because you'd still have it, and all of it's interest, regardless of how things go for you in the next few years...and you simply don't now). Think of it like this. If I lost a ten dollar bill...-if- I then worked my ass off to make ten more dollars......I'm still exactly half as rich as I would have been. I haven't gotten anything back. It's gross neutral and a net loss. The "wait and see" camp is banking on the if, not realizing that the if is irrelevant. How was that -if- supposed to happen in the first place? Better trade deals? Not going to happen, and that's no secret.
Perhaps this is what Tibs was referring to when he mentioned that a referendum wasn't a suitable tool for deciding on such matters?
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 24, 2016 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2016 at 5:18 pm by abaris.)
(June 24, 2016 at 5:15 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Normally that would be my reaction, but abaris really isn't worth getting angry over.
Well, as I said. R.E.S.P.E.C.T, if you know the old song. That's what's required for insults hitting the mark.
I'm actually enjoying myself over all the misunderstood crybabies trying to justify what they just did.
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 24, 2016 at 5:20 pm
(June 24, 2016 at 5:15 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 5:09 pm)Expired Wrote: Fuck it gloves are off
Normally that would be my reaction, but abaris really isn't worth getting angry over.
I really didn't want to do this, but when supposedly intelligent people start insulting good honest folk, it pushes my fuck you button.
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 24, 2016 at 5:27 pm
(June 24, 2016 at 5:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Recovery cant make that money reappear (because you'd still have it, and all of it's interest, regardless of how things go for you in the next few years...and you simply don't now). Think of it like this. If I lost a ten dollar bill...-if- I then worked my ass off to make ten more dollars......I'm still exactly half as rich as I would have been. I haven't gotten anything back. It's gross neutral and a net loss. The "wait and see" camp is banking on the if, not realizing that the if is irrelevant. How was that -if- supposed to happen in the first place? Better trade deals? Not going to happen, and that's no secret.
Perhaps this is what Tibs was referring to when he mentioned that a referendum wasn't a suitable tool for deciding on such matters?
You are just so, so wrong. I've set a reminder on my phone for this post. I'll be coming back to it in a year's time and we can pick up on who was right.
Until then, ciao, I'm out celebrating the UK's independence!
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 24, 2016 at 5:28 pm
(June 24, 2016 at 5:27 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Until then, ciao, I'm out celebrating the UK's independence!
Have fun! 
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 24, 2016 at 5:30 pm
(June 24, 2016 at 4:41 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 4:37 pm)Expired Wrote: Talk to me about it in two years time, looking forward to you choking on your words. and by the way not all people who live in rural communities are thick.
They're not worth your time. Nothing you say here will change their minds. You, Nap and I will be laughing at them all in a couple of years time.
Seems to me you're already laughing... like Nero watching Rome burn.
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 24, 2016 at 5:34 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2016 at 5:37 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 24, 2016 at 5:27 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 5:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Recovery cant make that money reappear (because you'd still have it, and all of it's interest, regardless of how things go for you in the next few years...and you simply don't now). Think of it like this. If I lost a ten dollar bill...-if- I then worked my ass off to make ten more dollars......I'm still exactly half as rich as I would have been. I haven't gotten anything back. It's gross neutral and a net loss. The "wait and see" camp is banking on the if, not realizing that the if is irrelevant. How was that -if- supposed to happen in the first place? Better trade deals? Not going to happen, and that's no secret.
Perhaps this is what Tibs was referring to when he mentioned that a referendum wasn't a suitable tool for deciding on such matters?
You are just so, so wrong. About what? You seem to think I'm doubting britains ability to go it on it's own, I'm not. I'm simply stating that losing ten dollars wont, no matter what you do, make you ten dollars richer, which seems to be what the leave campaign managed to convince people of. : scratches head :
Hopefully, we've seen the brunt of of it. Hope in one hand, shit in the other.
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 24, 2016 at 5:37 pm
(June 24, 2016 at 5:11 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I know you weren't accusing me I'm just trying to stress this seems to be a misconception I keep seeing.
When you say you have seen people "saying they like the leave option because they hate immigrants", find me an example of EXACTLY this. Find me one. Preferably it would be from the someone in the 99% of not-far-right-extremists who might well express this view regardless, because they have and always will.
If you can find me an example I'll concede you have cause to think what you do, but I don't honestly think you can.
There's fucking tons of them. It's not as though they don't exist if they can't be thought of of the top of one's head.
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 24, 2016 at 5:39 pm
(June 24, 2016 at 5:30 pm)Emjay Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 4:41 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: They're not worth your time. Nothing you say here will change their minds. You, Nap and I will be laughing at them all in a couple of years time.
Seems to me you're already laughing... like Nero watching Rome burn.
Except, we're not burning or collapsing. 
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 24, 2016 at 5:40 pm
Anyone know what the record is for number of pages in a day on one thread?
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