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The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
Why the Article 50 foot dragging?
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(June 26, 2016 at 5:20 pm)abaris Wrote:
(June 26, 2016 at 5:14 pm)Expired Wrote: The Tories are a spent force in this country, don't forecast our futures on their agenda.

And who's gonna replace them? UKIP? That really would be a sad day for the UK. Oswald Mosley style.

Neither labour or the Liberal Democrats seem likely, for that matter.
When Jeremy finally admits he cocked up and labour gets fresh leadership.
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(June 26, 2016 at 5:37 pm)Expired Wrote: When Jeremy finally admits he cocked up and labour gets fresh leadership.

Mate, I wish I had your optimism. And I don't confine that to the UK.
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(June 26, 2016 at 5:38 pm)abaris Wrote:
(June 26, 2016 at 5:37 pm)Expired Wrote: When Jeremy finally admits he cocked up and labour gets fresh leadership.

Mate, I wish I had your optimism. And I don't confine that to the UK.

My glass is always half full. Wink
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(June 26, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Expired Wrote:
(June 26, 2016 at 5:38 pm)abaris Wrote: Mate, I wish I had your optimism. And I don't confine that to the UK.

My glass is always half full. Wink

Get the right sized glass and it will be full.
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RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
(June 26, 2016 at 4:41 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(June 26, 2016 at 3:22 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: I don't wish for civil unrest. It's not something I would particularly like to happen,

But you have said on multiple times that you will enjoy watching it happen.

(June 26, 2016 at 3:22 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: but it might happen if the government turned around and ignored a win vote on a referendum. It might not happen on the other hand. I guess we're gonna just have to wait and see what happens.

Civil unrest will happen if the Brexit takes place (it's not assured yet). A few years down the line when people no longer have any worker's rights, no job security and are even poorer. Civil unrest happens when people are hungry and have nothing left to lose. It will be the young that riot.

You think Britian is going to take away worker rights and there is going to be hunger in Europe because they left the EU?? That's just silly.
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(June 26, 2016 at 6:26 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(June 26, 2016 at 4:41 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Civil unrest will happen if the Brexit takes place (it's not assured yet). A few years down the line when people no longer have any worker's rights, no job security and are even poorer. Civil unrest happens when people are hungry and have nothing left to lose. It will be the young that riot.

You think Britian is going to take away worker rights and there is going to be hunger in Europe because they left the EU?? That's just silly.

I did not say that there would be hunger in Europe, but in Britain. Regarding taking away worker's rights I've posted the links before although there's also this one:

Want to know the reality of employment law after Brexit? Just look at this document the government buried four years ago



(June 26, 2016 at 4:22 am)Mathilda Wrote: Worker's rights. They want to remove them so they can maximise profit for corporations and businesses and stimulate the economy. This is why they wanted to leave the EU. This is why they're going back on all the lies about controlling the borders, the £350m a week spent on the NHS and why Boris Johnson says that there is no rush to leave. They want what the EU has to offer but without  the worker's rights.

Working time directive

Quote:You can’t work more than 48 hours a week on average - normally averaged over 17 weeks. This law is sometimes called the ‘working time directive’ or ‘working time regulations’.

David Cameron to demand opt-out on EU work law in referendum negotiations

Why Brexit would be a disaster for your employment rights
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(June 26, 2016 at 6:39 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(June 26, 2016 at 6:26 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: You think Britian is going to take away worker rights and there is going to be hunger in Europe because they left the EU?? That's just silly.

I did not say that there would be hunger in Europe, but in Britain. Regarding taking away worker's rights I've posted the links before although there's also this one:

Want to know the reality of employment law after Brexit? Just look at this document the government buried four years ago



(June 26, 2016 at 4:22 am)Mathilda Wrote: Worker's rights. They want to remove them so they can maximise profit for corporations and businesses and stimulate the economy. This is why they wanted to leave the EU. This is why they're going back on all the lies about controlling the borders, the £350m a week spent on the NHS and why Boris Johnson says that there is no rush to leave. They want what the EU has to offer but without  the worker's rights.

Working time directive


David Cameron to demand opt-out on EU work law in referendum negotiations

Why Brexit would be a disaster for your employment rights
There wasn't hunger in the UK before the EU (after WWII) and there won't be after they are out. You are acting like withdrawing from the U.N. means A. That far-right parties automatically get control of Britain. That's obviously not the case, since they don't have control of Britain now. The people there aren't in favor of that, they just want out of the E.U. Also assuming that somehow withdrawing from the E.U. means there won't be any trade between the UK and the EU, even though that's just not true at all. I don't see how you could possibly assume that it'll effect their food supply. Actually it might even help, since the EU has silly anti-GMO laws and now Britain will have greater access to the worlds number one producer of food, which is the United States. The EU doesn't grow very much food anyway.

Hunger is the UK. lol. Why do people have to have so much hyperbole about everything. Also those links don't say anything like what you are claiming, it's just a link to a single UK law that doesn't have anything to do with the EU anyway, why is that going anywhere? Hardly evidence that workers rights are going to diminish in a country that has had very strong workers rights long before the EU even existed.
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Quote:They want what the EU has to offer but without  the worker's rights.

Ah....so there is always some poor schlub being sold a bill of goods about "freedom" and there is always some scum-sucking corporate pig manipulating them.  Nice work, Mathilda.
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What a wonderful idea, becoming more dependent on US, right down to the food you eat.  That's what independence looks like, for sure. 

 Why do I feel like Gollum being handed the ring all of a sudden?
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