(June 26, 2016 at 3:44 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: It's easy to say when you aren't being violently oppressed and have a pretty easy life (I don't know whether or not that's the case with you, I'm just saying it.)

Not really. Not saying I expect people to not be violent and not even saying I never would if I got desperate enough as a matter of survival. I'm just saying what people would do is different to what they should do and I hope I never would resort to violence even if my survival instinct felt I had to.

CapnAwesome,

Yes we can still trade with the EU. No it won't be easier now that we're not part of it.

Talking about food production though, farmers won't be given payments from the Common Agricultural Policy now to insulate them from the peaks and troughs of the market. This won't lead to hunger but it will lead to many farmers going out of business.

I don't see how "we can still trade with the EU" is an advantage when we can trade with the EU more freely when we're part of it

(June 27, 2016 at 3:15 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I don't see how "we can still trade with the EU" is an advantage when we can trade with the EU more freely when we're part of it

And have voice, veto and influence. Which associated countries don't have.

I wonder how fucked this country has to get before the Leavers admit to themselves that they were wrong. And when they do I wonder how many will admit to others.