Martyr.

Maybe I'm going to sound like a terrible person here, or maybe a little xenophobic. But I really hate how celebrities and rich people, and even other people always think about adopting children from foreign countries, before they think about adopting children from their own countries. It's like the children who were born here are 'less worthy' for some reason. It's like they want to adopt someone so they can say they did this really truly great thing, and if they adopt one of the more than 100,000 kids in the US who need a home, that it's just not good enough.

(July 12, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Wow...

How sad are you, that you have nothing but anger and disgust for someone who simply wants to serve any way he can to the point of death...

that a truly selfless action brings about fits of anger and rage in you.. that honor and devotion to children who's destined to die pretty horribly and most likly alone if not for this man and wife brings out insults towards the children his wife and his own selflessness...

Oh, really? Selflessness? Millions of dollars and the possible "sacrifice" of his own life, leaving his sick kids behind so his wife can care for them on her own?

Wow is right.

(July 12, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Drich Wrote:

(July 11, 2016 at 3:46 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: My guess is that Jim Caviezel is considered one of the what Christians on this forum would call a model christian and catholic. But you know I watched that 48 minute interview (or should I say session) with him on youtube and he's truly bonkers. Like Mel Gibson, obsessed with sadomasochism. Hey, I don't want to fall into giving some psychiatric diagnoses, but this is really representation of how Christianity messes up your brain.

First half of the session is him talking about filming of the "Passion" and what was basically going on is that Mel Gibson was torturing him, but Jim, being stupid catholic as he is, took it as present from God. In some of the crucifixion scenes they were literally throwing him on the ground while he was strapped to the cross, that he was breaking bones and dislocating joints. There were points where doctor on the set would listen his heart and said he is in critical condition, but they continued filming because Jim "knew" that if he died he would go straight to heaven and he wants to die. He pointed out how he wanted to go to war and die to his country, only to accuse "secularists" that they they see suicide as "way out".
And also having angry fits over reporters on the set that "chose deliberately to write bad reports about making of the movie" - gee Jim, if you almost died couple of times don't you think it was pretty bad?

Or maybe it's all just lies that are part of a ploy to sell his shitty Jesus movie, because it sure looked like it in the second part when he stopped answering questions and started yelling at the audience that they must have less stuff and fast (while he has golden Rolex on his wrist and dressed in expensive cloths), that they had abortions and/or at least payed for them and that they must buy his audio Bible to make their lives "less miserable". And also praising them for actually coming because that will make God happy as if Jim is a church?

And then in some other videos it is relieved that Jim and his wife adopted, as a sacrifice and instructed by god, children from China that have really bad brain cancers. I mean Jim why stop at the adopting retarded children? Why didn't he marry a retarded woman with at least Down syndrome? It's because he was selfish! He wanted a nice pair of tits to grab and soft cunt to fuck! I mean how will he even look at the face of Jesus when he goes to his fucking heaven with selfish shit like that?

If he really wanted to help sick children he could have helped build better hospital for them, support stem cell research, help to push for advancement of science that will battle pollution and therefore lower down cancer disease. But no. In his shallow christian worldview he sees that problems out there are his sacrifice. I mean what a sad asshole.

Wow...

How sad are you, that you have nothing but anger and disgust for someone who simply wants to serve any way he can to the point of death...

that a truly selfless action brings about fits of anger and rage in you.. that honor and devotion to children who's destined to die pretty horribly and most likly alone if not for this man and wife brings out insults towards the children his wife and his own selflessness...

People want to blame all the shootings and terrorism this country has on guns... In truth our problem is a problem of evil, evil in the heart and minds of our core citizens.. Evil because we have moved so far from God that anything God might applaude gets shat on by people like you.. If you are the new base line of decency/moral middle in this country now, then is it really that shocking that someone just a little left of what you consider to be 'center' can shoot up a night club or kill 1/2 a dozen cops?

You are really going off the rails if you actually believe any of what you wrote in the last paragraph. 

To make the connection between calling out some pretty wacky views by a theist actor, to killing cops in Dallas, is, even for you, pretty out there. And then to think that being a "little left of center" is in any way connected, is just plain crazy. I guess the most likely next mass killer is who? Bernie Sanders?

Sorry to burst your little delusional bubble, but there are quite a few countries with a 'center' that is pretty far to the left of the center in the US, and a high percentage atheist population,  that do not seem to have weekly problems of people shooting dozens of people in night clubs or killing 1/2 dozen cops.

Not to mention the Orlando shooter was most assuredly not left of center. But why let pesky things like facts stand in the way of righteous indignation?

(July 12, 2016 at 1:59 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:

(July 12, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Wow...

How sad are you, that you have nothing but anger and disgust for someone who simply wants to serve any way he can to the point of death...

that a truly selfless action brings about fits of anger and rage in you.. that honor and devotion to children who's destined to die pretty horribly and most likly alone if not for this man and wife brings out insults towards the children his wife and his own selflessness...

People want to blame all the shootings and terrorism this country has on guns... In truth our problem is a problem of evil, evil in the heart and minds of our core citizens.. Evil because we have moved so far from God that anything God might applaude gets shat on by people like you.. If you are the new base line of decency/moral middle in this country now, then is it really that shocking that someone just a little left of what you consider to be 'center' can shoot up a night club or kill 1/2 a dozen cops?

You are really going off the rails if you actually believe any of what you wrote in the last paragraph. 

To make the connection of calling out some pretty wacky views by a theist actor, to killing cops in Dallas, is, even for you, pretty out there. And then to think that being a "little left of center" is in any way connected, is just plain crazy. I guess the most likely next mass killer is who? Bernie Sanders?

Sorry to burst your little delusional bubble, but there are quite a few countries with a 'center' that is pretty far to the left of the center in the US, and a high percentage atheist population,  that do not seem to have weekly problems of people shooting dozens of people in night clubs or killing 1/2 dozen cops.

Oh, you mean the all white European countries, where everyone is indoctrinated the same way? Yeah, not to hard to even to be beyond extreme/radicalized (Nazis come to mind) when everyone has the same value system.. Apples and oranges sport.

Again the problem I have outlined is evil and it's many definations. The guy shooting the night club thought he was subduing evil by killing homosexuals, the guy killing cops, again thought he was killing evil men. Likewise The douche bag OP was highlighting what he thought evil of God/self sacrifice for Godly cause to be, by condemning what he saw as 'evil' (even if he would use a different name to label it.) In the act of adopting terminally ill children and seeing the feel loved before they die...

All I did was point out that if doing something this good is now to be condemned by the 'center' to be wrong (deserves to be mocked by people like the op and his kudeo-ers) then it is no wonder we have people going to what use to be extremes when God's morals were our standard to stamp out the 'evil' they see.

(July 12, 2016 at 1:47 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Maybe I'm going to sound like a terrible person here, or maybe a little xenophobic.  But I really hate how celebrities and rich people, and even other people always think about adopting children from foreign countries, before they think about adopting children from their own countries.  It's like the children who were born here are 'less worthy' for some reason.  It's like they want to adopt someone so they can say they did this really truly great thing, and if they adopt one of the more than 100,000 kids in the US who need a home, that it's just not good enough.

That's not xenophobic at all.

You're bringing up a perfectly valid point.

It's not hard to become radicalized where everyone is indoctrinated the same way... yet, you (and other Christians) want others be be indoctrinated the same way.

(July 12, 2016 at 1:53 pm)The_Empress Wrote:

(July 12, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Wow...

How sad are you, that you have nothing but anger and disgust for someone who simply wants to serve any way he can to the point of death...

that a truly selfless action brings about fits of anger and rage in you.. that honor and devotion to children who's destined to die pretty horribly and most likly alone if not for this man and wife brings out insults towards the children his wife and his own selflessness...

Oh, really? Selflessness? Millions of dollars and the possible "sacrifice" of his own life, leaving his sick kids behind so his wife can care for them on her own?

Wow is right.

Wow indeed... He would leave his wife with millions of dollars to support those kids with...

The self righteous hate and anger you have for a man and his wife electing to give up the life you would live, to live a less selfish one, won't even allow you to see that you answer your own indictment.

Again, Evil hate/loaths good.

(July 12, 2016 at 1:47 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Maybe I'm going to sound like a terrible person here, or maybe a little xenophobic.  But I really hate how celebrities and rich people, and even other people always think about adopting children from foreign countries, before they think about adopting children from their own countries.  It's like the children who were born here are 'less worthy' for some reason.  It's like they want to adopt someone so they can say they did this really truly great thing, and if they adopt one of the more than 100,000 kids in the US who need a home, that it's just not good enough.

The idea being.. Chinese and Korean specifically babies/children have it a little worse than the worst of the worst here could ever imagine.

The problem is when an unmarried woman or a woman who gets divorced has children and wants to get remarried the new man 9/10 times will not have anything to do with the other mans kids. So they are sent to live with relitives (grandparents) or they are outright abandoned. Which in of itself is not the tragic issue. What makes it tragic is when the grandparents get too old or there are no relitives to send the kids to. They become wards of the state. which the state does not feel it is their place to raise children, but rather feel it is important that the children be made to pay for their own room and board. which makes orphanages more like labor camps.

Very little care is given.. In the land of china, they had a strict rules about children (how many one could have) Girls were hated so they sent them off to the death/labor camps.. When the camp got too full they put the sick or the new borns/one that could not work into dying rooms, where they would be strapped to tables and or chairs and left to die.

So.. yeah, I want to apologize for all the Chinese babies that people adopted over American babies...

That said I hate it that it has become a in vogue thing to do... but at least some of them have a chance.