(July 19, 2016 at 12:46 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: We label them to one or another race to discuss them in detail. It's pretty hard to discuss white-on- black racism in America without reference to the privileges that whites in general enjoy, and introducing other races clouds the discussion. As Rhythm noted above, our history, with its white-dominated power structure, "peculiar institution" and "strange fruit", rather demand it for the sake of accuracy.

So I take it you're not against the use of the phrase black on black crime either?
When discussing the level that black people kill each other on a statistical unprecedented level in the United States.

And I don't think that it necessarily clouds the conversation to mention other races.
Other races Asians exist.
If their income for example is better than white people then this challenges the narrative that you have to be white to succeed in America.
And Asians doesn't just include the Japanese, Chinese and Koreans it's also the Indians.
Plus groups of people at a similar income to whites such as Turkish, Bulgarian, Romanian.

Ever think that if the crime rate among blacks is high, it might have something to do with poverty, oppression, and incarceration? How about we stop cops killing them at almost twice the rate they do whites and stop throwing almost half their young men in jail for years for minor offenses and see if that helps?

(July 19, 2016 at 9:27 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Ever think that if the crime rate among blacks is high, it might have something to do with poverty, oppression, and incarceration? How about we stop cops killing them at almost twice the rate they do whites and stop throwing almost half their young men in jail for years for minor offenses and see if that helps?

Yes I have thought about that.

As I said it's good to take every factor into consideration and not just the narrative played by either side of the political spectrum.

Everytime you look at cops killing blacks, look at the rate of blacks killing cops, and vice versa.

If you're going to talk about race and advantages talkin about other races doesn't cloud or confuse the conversation, it might prevent you reaching the conclusion you want to reach, but additional information and additional perspectives shouldn't be seen as clouding the topic or being confusing or unhelpful or whatever you want to call it.

I have never seen someone try so goddamn hard to justify not giving a shit about racism.

(July 19, 2016 at 12:34 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: I have never seen someone try so goddamn hard to justify not giving a shit about racism.

By saying we should look at every piece of information available and different perspectives before drawing conclusions doesn't mean I don't care about racism.

The comments on this thread make me laugh.

Hey this guys talking about looking at all perspectives and not just the narrative that white people are to blame, he doesn't care about racism.

Your comments are confusing, refuses to say which ones.

Paul what you're saying is embarrassing, sure you don't want to just agree with everyone else?

Why is white privilege even being questioned.

It's silly to think that white privilege has anything to do with the actual word privilege.

It's clouding and confusing the topic to look at additional factors and perspectives, can we please just focus on white people?

Paul you have to go places to be a minority, go places like my local gym? Or my street?

Seriously, what about black privilege!? I get sick of people looking at me and assuming I can't do a slam dunk just because I'm white

Wait...

I've seen people try do this creepy type of racist behavior though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOO0l2r3uJ4

WARNING VERY VERY VERY CRINGEWORTHY AND UNCOMFORTABLE

For the 200 millionth fucking time. White privilege has absolutely nothing to do with blaming white people.

(July 19, 2016 at 12:44 pm)Losty Wrote: Seriously, what about black privilege!? I get sick of people looking at me and assuming I can't do a slam dunk just because I'm white

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