(July 20, 2016 at 10:42 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(July 20, 2016 at 9:53 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I hate that Democrat Americans have put Hillary in over Bernie Sanders.  How are you gonna choose between a fucking orangutan and the wicked witch of the East?  It's like-- what do I want for breakfast, bleach or strychnine?

How? By stopping to act like a child and realising that Hillary is going to make an excellent president, even with all of her faults, while that other fucking moron might very well precipitate a global disaster.


Hillary lied and didn't handle some emails the way she was supposed to. Trump is a fucking idiot, literally, who can't make up his mind on what his own views are regarding anything at all and doesn't understand anything about anything. You tell me if your analogy is anything but a ridiculous exageration.

One of those candidates is a 2-faced, flip-flopping, big-business-embracing politician.  The other is an orangutan whose best business moves have been a series of bankruptcies.

I'm so fucking disappointed in America now, specifically American democrats. Sanders was the perfect progressive democrat, and Hillary is so flawed in so many ways. There is just no comparison, and the fact that American democrats would rather vote for their establishment candidate than someone who represents real democratic values is fucking sick. I think Americans no longer care about democracy-- they just want to see their team win the 4-year Superbowl, however they have to do it.

Two sides of the same fucking coin.... I wouldn't call Hillary a democrat she is a fucking republican through and through.

(July 21, 2016 at 12:05 am)dyresand Wrote: Two sides of the same fucking coin.... I wouldn't call Hillary a democrat she is a fucking republican through and through.

Not quite and that's a ridiculous thing to say.

I'm starting to see that politics is a lot like religion for some people. Fuck logic, because feelings.

Quote:Sanders was the perfect progressive democrat,

Sanders was not a democrat at all.  He was, and remains, an Independent.  How many points do you think that gained him with the democratic party and people who have been busting their balls for it for 30 years?

Not to mention that Sanders' promises were no more realistic than Drumpf's.   He had no way to pay for them and would never have gotten them through congress.

For the umpteenth time, we elect a president.  Not a king.

(July 20, 2016 at 10:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote: By taking a good close look at the orangutan.... while he is throwing shit at you.

To humanize Great Apes is an insult to them. In this case, it most certainly is.

(July 21, 2016 at 2:15 am)Minimalist Wrote: Not to mention that Sanders' promises were no more realistic than Drumpf's. He had no way to pay for them and would never have gotten them through congress.

You're right about his plans not going through congress. But as for paying, the military Behemoth alone would provide ample opportunity for saving money. Maybe make it only ten times as large as the next nations combined, instead of 14 times the size.

(July 21, 2016 at 12:10 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(July 21, 2016 at 12:05 am)dyresand Wrote: Two sides of the same fucking coin.... I wouldn't call Hillary a democrat she is a fucking republican through and through.

Not quite and that's a ridiculous thing to say.

I'm starting to see that politics is a lot like religion for some people. Fuck logic, because feelings.

Let's see you have to people they want to fuck you in different ways.

Trump want's to fuck you hard.

Hillary want's to fuck you silly and lie about putting on a condom.

(July 21, 2016 at 2:35 am)abaris Wrote:

(July 20, 2016 at 10:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote: By taking a good close look at the orangutan.... while he is throwing shit at you.

To humanize Great Apes is an insult to them. In this case, it most certainly is.

(July 21, 2016 at 2:15 am)Minimalist Wrote: Not to mention that Sanders' promises were no more realistic than Drumpf's.   He had no way to pay for them and would never have gotten them through congress.

You're right about his plans not going through congress. But as for paying, the military Behemoth alone would provide ample opportunity for saving money. Maybe make it only ten times as large as the next nations combined, instead of 14 times the size.

You think he would have gotten massive military cuts through congress?   We have obsolete aircraft at Monahan AF Base about 100 miles south of me near Tucson.  It's called the A-10 and the Arizona Congressional delegation would rather cut off their own balls than have those planes retired.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthompso...55f9c64990

Quote:Obsolete A-10 Thunderbolt Becomes A Symbol Of American Air Power's Decline

The air force doesn't even want the fucking thing but what does that matter when congressmen think they are protecting "jobs."

Now Drumpf, being a fucking outsider moron can be forgiven for not knowing this shit.  But Sanders has been in congress for 25 years.  If his plan was to finance his promises with defense cuts then he should have known better.  One might almost say that he was being a cynical prick if that was his plan.  I never really heard a plan on how he was going to pay for his stuff.  In that, he is much like the orangutan.

(July 21, 2016 at 2:53 am)Minimalist Wrote: You think he would have gotten massive military cuts through congress?

I said, I don't think, he would. But the money is there.

(July 20, 2016 at 11:32 pm)bennyboy Wrote:  I think Americans no longer care about democracy-- they just want to see their team win the 4-year Superbowl, however they have to do it.

This is the crux of the problem, right here. Too many Americans think they'll win something if they vote for the winner. I got news for them: if the winner is a Republican or a Democrat, the only thing they'll win is another four years of screwing sans lube.

This two-party juggernaut must be stopped, but because of this jackpot mentality ("I voted for the winner! Where's my prize?!"), we will be stuck choosing between Shitty and Shittier.

Nothing will change until the minds of voters change, and I'm not gonna hold my breath. I can only cast my own vote and try to persuade others to opt out.

(July 21, 2016 at 4:57 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: if the winner is a Republican or a Democrat, the only thing they'll win is another four years of screwing sans lube.

We call the procedure with the sordid lead pipe.

But what are the chances for establishing a third party in the system? What are the chances of getting money out of politics? Far as I know, there have been several supreme court decisions on money equaling free speech.