(July 22, 2016 at 5:37 pm)Imaginaryfriendless Wrote: I've noticed that...most folks here seem to at least think they care about people,yet I have seen no anger directed at our homegrown terrorist organization. No black man alive today was ever enslaved by the US, and frankly their own people sold them to the slave traders. If they hadn't come here they'd probably be lying in the mud somewhere in africa dying of Ebola or AIDS. There is so much reverse discrimination now it's ridiculous. Slavery was a terrible thing, but many countries still do it, many people are suffering and dying right now in slavery...these US blacks have everything at their fingertips- loads of scholarships ands grants for black folks, but instead many of them just draw welfare or unemployment and sit on their butts, or sell drugs, and complain that they have been slaves! So they want more free stuff.

Unless they were born in Africa and moved to the US, there is no need for hyphens. They are just AMERICANS. Not "African-Americans". Ridiculous. 

I feel you, brother.

Yeah, I'm starting to feel you too. And here I was thinking, you'd turn out to be a reasonable person. OK, I'm outta here before I lose my lunch.

Good god, why are -these- the issues that divide?  I mean really....starve out the lazy and stop bitching darkie.  If you don;t agree with those things bam - liberal?  If you do, you can't be a liberal?

Frankly, that sounds more like the difference between an asshole and a human being than a liberal and a conservative. Surely, it's not shit like this?

(July 22, 2016 at 5:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Good god, why are -these- the issues that divide?  I mean really....starve out the lazy and stop bitching darkie.  If you don;t agree with those things bam - liberal?  If you do, you can't be a liberal?

These are the issues that divide because what the left don't realise is it's pussy leftist policies over the last 20 years that have led to an entire generation of working class having utter stagnation in their standard of living, if not decline. This is a broad comment and can apply to many things ofcourse but it's a sentiment that resonates with a silent majority of people. It's a sentiment that had a massive influence on the Brexit vote and it's also the reason why Donald Trump is going to be your next president, whether you like it or not.

(July 22, 2016 at 5:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -And if people cant get what they need, they die...ghoul, lol.  Besides, since when was food everything a person needed?  Are you super lazy on account of having a full fridge?  I'm not.  Hell, work is a forgone conclusion if you have nothing to eat, the labor of starving people is worth next to nothing.  Sure as shit couldn;t hire a starving person in my line of work...I wouldn;t be able to make a dime.  Nothing would make it to market, be like a bunch of locusts descending upon my livelihood.

I'm really surprised Rhythm..I've been impressed so far with your posts and ideals, but this is human behaviorism 101. It comes back to the old "Give a man a fish/teach a man to fish" saying. You feed people for free? You have a source that will never dry up and requires no processing, or growing, or packaging? You give people free food and they will feel entitled to free everything, then they'll want better food, and they'll burn the facility down if you don't produce it, rumors will start that another town gets the GOOD food, while they get the same old crap...it will become a RIGHT to free food instead of a privilege, and soon it will be abused. History is full of examples of that behavior pattern.

It would be simple to build a utopia on this planet. One where everybody was fed and clothed and educated. ONE thing stops that from becoming a reality. Any idea what it is?

Human Nature.

I'm trying to have a conversation with human beings here Napo, not sentient bricks that would rather see people starve than be "lazy"...gimme a minute, I'll get back to you.

@ Imagine...I;ve given away alot of free food. None of that -ever- happened, didn;t become a utopia either. Just talking about food here...grows out of the ground...does most of the work itself. Can't even sell it all when I try. Mostly, what happened is everybody smiled and got along, a weight was lifted out of the air, hell..it even made -me- feel good..and my hearts three sizes too small.

Are you entirely certain that you can't be a conservative -or- a liberal..and think that giving away free food is a net good/gain? What about those sweet...sweet writeoffs? The incredible PR that brings affluent folks to your door ready to pay a premium? The satisfaction of reducing waste in your business model? Of leveraging -all- of your assets..even the intangibles?

(July 22, 2016 at 5:39 pm)abaris Wrote:

(July 22, 2016 at 5:37 pm)Imaginaryfriendless Wrote: I've noticed that...most folks here seem to at least think they care about people,yet I have seen no anger directed at our homegrown terrorist organization. No black man alive today was ever enslaved by the US, and frankly their own people sold them to the slave traders. If they hadn't come here they'd probably be lying in the mud somewhere in africa dying of Ebola or AIDS. There is so much reverse discrimination now it's ridiculous. Slavery was a terrible thing, but many countries still do it, many people are suffering and dying right now in slavery...these US blacks have everything at their fingertips- loads of scholarships ands grants for black folks, but instead many of them just draw welfare or unemployment and sit on their butts, or sell drugs, and complain that they have been slaves! So they want more free stuff.

Unless they were born in Africa and moved to the US, there is no need for hyphens. They are just AMERICANS. Not "African-Americans". Ridiculous. 

I feel you, brother.

Yeah, I'm starting to feel you too. And here I was thinking, you'd turn out to be a reasonable person. OK, I'm outta here before I lose my lunch.

That is hilarious! I had the exact same thought! What are the odds?

Quote:I've noticed that...most folks here seem to at least think they care about people,yet I have seen no anger directed at our homegrown terrorist organization. No black man alive today was ever enslaved by the US, and frankly their own people sold them to the slave traders. If they hadn't come here they'd probably be lying in the mud somewhere in africa dying of Ebola or AIDS. There is so much reverse discrimination now it's ridiculous. Slavery was a terrible thing, but many countries still do it, many people are suffering and dying right now in slavery...these US blacks have everything at their fingertips- loads of scholarships ands grants for black folks, but instead many of them just draw welfare or unemployment and sit on their butts, or sell drugs, and complain that they have been slaves! So they want more free stuff.

Unless they were born in Africa and moved to the US, there is no need for hyphens. They are just AMERICANS. Not "African-Americans". Ridiculous.

I feel you, brother.

My, you turned out to be a little racist shitstain, didn't you?

Boru

(July 22, 2016 at 5:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm trying to have a conversation with human beings here Napo, not sentient bricks that would rather see people starve than be "lazy"...gimme a minute, I'll get back to you.

You're completely missing my point. A society that hands everything to people on a silver platter at the expense of giving them the opportunity to earn it, leads to a society that will become lazy. Look at the way people abuse benefits in Britain. It's easier for a great many people to sit on the dole instead of actually going out and working. The tories have at least attempted to change this mentality in their tenure. 

I'm not saying we should abandon people and let them starve. By all means heal the world but do not do so at the expense of society as a whole. I believe in raising those worse off to your level, and giving them the opportunity to earn it, instead of handing out rewards for no effort at the expense of those who do work for it. It's not because of some noble idealism where I want everyone in society to work hard. It's because if it is any other way people have no incentive to do so.

(July 22, 2016 at 5:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: My, you turned out to be a little racist shitstain, didn't you?

Boru

What specifically that he said was racist Boru. You're the exact idiot who cries racist at every opportunity. It's basically lefty talk for "I can't be arsed to actually think now". This culture of crying racist is a cancer on free thought.

(July 22, 2016 at 5:37 pm)Imaginaryfriendless Wrote:

(July 22, 2016 at 5:23 pm)paulpablo Wrote: On a right wing forum id probably get called a liberal faggot, on this forum I'll get told I'm a bigot who doesn't care about racism with a thinly vailed agenda.

I've been told there is an actual positive correlation between being liberal and being an atheist but it was on a video and I don't remember the precise statistics.

I don't think I know enough about politics to even pick a side, I'm just happy questioning ideas both sides has to offer.

It's rare that I question any right wing ideals on this forums because 1 they're quite rare. 2 there's so many liberals on this forum if someone did start a thread with even a hint of right wing tendencies it would get bombarded with replies from everyone else anyway.

I mean there's about 1000 threads saying fuck Donald trump, fuck the police, fuck the FBI, and there's significantly less threads about fuck black lives matter fuck Bernie sanders and so on.

I've noticed that...most folks here seem to at least think they care about people,yet I have seen no anger directed at our homegrown terrorist organization. No black man alive today was ever enslaved by the US, and frankly their own people sold them to the slave traders. If they hadn't come here they'd probably be lying in the mud somewhere in africa dying of Ebola or AIDS. There is so much reverse discrimination now it's ridiculous. Slavery was a terrible thing, but many countries still do it, many people are suffering and dying right now in slavery...these US blacks have everything at their fingertips- loads of scholarships ands grants for black folks, but instead many of them just draw welfare or unemployment and sit on their butts, or sell drugs, and complain that they have been slaves! So they want more free stuff.

Unless they were born in Africa and moved to the US, there is no need for hyphens. They are just AMERICANS. Not "African-Americans". Ridiculous. 

I feel you, brother.