(July 23, 2016 at 8:58 am)ignoramus Wrote: Vik, fair enough, and by what Alex suggested, what is wrong with society these days which has manifested itself to this extent?
Is humanity failing itself? No fix in sight? What is the root cause? Kids not eating their vegetables?

These were kids in Manchester back in the 1870s. A white version of the bloods and crips if you will, without the obvious hardman protection; the gun.

(July 23, 2016 at 4:01 am)ignoramus Wrote: It seems like every bloody time you turn the news on, something is happening bad somewhere in the world.
Now no-one is even going to notice the Syrians, Iraqis and Afghans dying in numbers everyday.
Because white European lives matter more!

#sarcastic hat off.

This world's fucked I tell you.

Good news equals low ratings.

(July 23, 2016 at 7:22 am)RobertE Wrote: This is very misleading since anyone who are 2nd, 3rd or even 4th generation Turk, Moroccan, Algerian are considered "home-grown."

If they were born in Germany, they were home-grown. There's nothing misleading about the term at all; it means "born there". And CNN is reporting him as being born and raised in Munich.

(July 23, 2016 at 11:07 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(July 23, 2016 at 7:22 am)RobertE Wrote: This is very misleading since anyone who are 2nd, 3rd or even 4th generation Turk, Moroccan, Algerian are considered "home-grown."

If they were born in Germany, they were home-grown. There's nothing misleading about the term at all; it means "born there". And CNN is reporting him as being born and raised in Munich.

Just like me. I have Irish ancestry and as long as I was born in England, I will be a home-grown Englishman. Secondly, I know what it means as I am English so, please spare me the lesson in Shakespeares language.

Since most of the victims were minors, Police doesn't rule out he was after people his own age. In their words, the neither confirm nor deny it.

Shooter was still at school and had mental health issues. They found material on mass shootings and police procedures at his home. Weapon was obviously purchased ilegally, since the serial has been removed. Come to think of it, all the German mass shooters of the last two decades were still at school. And all targetted people of their own age.

(July 23, 2016 at 11:19 am)RobertE Wrote: [...] please spare me the lesson in Shakespeares language.

Sure, so long as you stop saying that I'm being misleading when in fact I'm not. Such an expert in the language should certainly have been able to read what was, in fact, plain English.

(July 23, 2016 at 12:14 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(July 23, 2016 at 11:19 am)RobertE Wrote: [...] please spare me the lesson in Shakespeares language.

Sure, so long as you stop saying that I'm being misleading when in fact I'm not.  Such an expert in the language should certainly have been able to read what was, in fact, plain English.

I read your response and replied to it. I didn't actually say that "you", were being misleading in any way. And I do apologise should I have given that impression.

Part of your quote:

Quote:The video posts upthread indicates a home-grown origin

(July 23, 2016 at 12:35 pm)RobertE Wrote:

(July 23, 2016 at 12:14 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Sure, so long as you stop saying that I'm being misleading when in fact I'm not.  Such an expert in the language should certainly have been able to read what was, in fact, plain English.

I read your response and replied to it. I didn't actually say that "you", were being misleading in any way. And I do apologise should I have given that impression.

This is a distinction without a difference. Saying that my words are misleading, in a format where I am only known only by words, is calling me misleading. Thanks for your apology. Moving right along --

(July 23, 2016 at 12:35 pm)RobertE Wrote: Part of your quote:

Quote:The video posts upthread indicates a home-grown origin

... and the whole of it, so that you don't, ahem, mislead others by removing the context:

(July 23, 2016 at 12:26 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The video posts upthread indicates a home-grown origin, but I sure don't know enough to form a cogent view.

So yeah, there's that. You realize that quote-mining is against the rules, right?

(July 23, 2016 at 2:34 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(July 23, 2016 at 12:35 pm)RobertE Wrote: I read your response and replied to it. I didn't actually say that "you", were being misleading in any way. And I do apologise should I have given that impression.

This is a distinction without a difference. Saying that my words are misleading, in a format where I am only known only by words, is calling me misleading. Thanks for your apology. Moving right along --

(July 23, 2016 at 12:35 pm)RobertE Wrote: Part of your quote:

... and the whole of it, so that you don't, ahem, mislead others by removing the context:

(July 23, 2016 at 12:26 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The video posts upthread indicates a home-grown origin, but I sure don't know enough to form a cogent view.

So yeah, there's that. You realize that quote-mining is against the rules, right?

Then take away the reputation away from me then. I sure didn't earn it.

I can't take it away, and I wouldn't if I could, because you're usually on your game. This time not so much, but we all have bad days.

You can treat me with common courtesy or not; that's your choice, not mine.

Anyway, let's not derail this any more.