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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
July 23, 2016 at 3:26 pm
(July 23, 2016 at 3:15 pm)wallym Wrote: No. It's not nearly enough for me. The world has lots and lots of borders. My family, my city, my county, my state, my region, my country, my continent, etc... As we get further out, society more or less works that you have less and less responsibility to those people.
I don't feel obligated to take care of every human on the planet. You probably don't either in practice.
You know, when someone says something like that, I have but one wish. That they are put in a similar situation at one point in their lives and everyone slams the doors into their face because it's none of their concern.
My family lived through it, some 70 years ago. Many countries slammed their doors and so most of them didn't make it. My parents did, with luck. So, excuse, if I read something like the above quote with utmost disgust.
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
July 23, 2016 at 3:39 pm
(July 23, 2016 at 3:15 pm)wallym Wrote: (July 23, 2016 at 2:53 pm)Mermaid Wrote: They are living breathing human beings that are running from the very same thing. For them, it's asylum or die. Not enough for YOU?
No. It's not nearly enough for me. The world has lots and lots of borders. My family, my city, my county, my state, my region, my country, my continent, etc... As we get further out, society more or less works that you have less and less responsibility to those people.
I don't feel obligated to take care of every human on the planet. You probably don't either in practice. You and I do not see the world the same way.
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
July 23, 2016 at 4:20 pm
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2016 at 4:23 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
No ones talking about taking care of everyone on the planet, lol, stop. We're talking about absorbing refugees who are running from mutual enemies...those very same people we'd call terrorists. When you see the villagers running for their lives toward your OP, you open the gates and turn your guns on them people chasing them...you don't mow down the villagers, or watch while they get slaughtered five feet in front of you...and you don't tell them "keep running..I think there's another post somebody else runs a few miles thataway, we've only got five potatos".
Or, at least, -I- won't.
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
July 23, 2016 at 6:54 pm
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(July 23, 2016 at 3:39 pm)Mermaid Wrote: (July 23, 2016 at 3:15 pm)wallym Wrote: No. It's not nearly enough for me. The world has lots and lots of borders. My family, my city, my county, my state, my region, my country, my continent, etc... As we get further out, society more or less works that you have less and less responsibility to those people.
I don't feel obligated to take care of every human on the planet. You probably don't either in practice. You and I do not see the world the same way.
You don't help people at the expense of your own community. There's a line you draw. I do see the world as you do for example, yet I don't think merging two cultures separated by some 6 centuries or so in advancement is the best idea for either of them.
But what's done is done, at this point. All we can do is make the best of it.
Just curious though. Are you even an European or do you reside in a country that accepted refugees or are you talking out of your ass? 'Cause if you are, please don't.
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
July 23, 2016 at 7:00 pm
(July 23, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: You don't help people at the expense of your own community. There's a line you draw. I do see the world as you do for example, yet I don't think merging two cultures separated by some 6 centuries or so in advancement is the best idea for either of them.
OK.
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Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Copyright pastor Niemöller. But don't let that disturb you, since even a clergyman can be a better person than some atheists. He was persecuted by the Nazis and survived to turn his own feelings of guilt into a very well known poem. Obviously wasted on some, who fart into their comfy chairs and don't concern themselves with the fate of others. Especially if they are some 600 years removed from their own feelings of superiority.
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
July 23, 2016 at 7:07 pm
I'm not afraid of being a direct victim of terrorism for the same reason that I'm not excited at the prospect of winning the lottery.
Math.
I am afraid of being an indirect victim of terrorism. Suffering the effects of cowardly, irrational overreaction to terrorism. That's been worse for the world in terms of both loss of life and property than the devastation inflicted by any suicide bomber.
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
July 23, 2016 at 7:11 pm
I am honestly more concerned with the oncoming Machine War than I am about terrorism.
Whilst everyone is clucking away about the Big Scary Brown People, I am working on ensuring humanity's survival and eventual victory over our artificial future foes.
Thank me later, bitches...
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
July 23, 2016 at 7:13 pm
(July 23, 2016 at 7:00 pm)abaris Wrote: (July 23, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: You don't help people at the expense of your own community. There's a line you draw. I do see the world as you do for example, yet I don't think merging two cultures separated by some 6 centuries or so in advancement is the best idea for either of them.
OK.
Quote:First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Copyright pastor Niemöller. But don't let that disturb you, since even a clergyman can be a better person than some atheists. He was persecuted by the Nazis and survived to turn his own feelings of guilt into a very well known poem. Obviously wasted on some, who fart into their comfy chairs and don't concern themselves with the fate of others. Especially if they are some 600 years removed from their own feelings of superiority.
I'd get offended if I didn't know your worldview to be so utterly simplistic I can't blame you for such a response.
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
July 23, 2016 at 7:14 pm
I wouldn't say I'm 'afraid' of terrorism, exactly (and I've lived through several instances of it). What I am is concerned over how the threat of terrorism leads people in authority to make idiotic decisions, and leads the populous to cast idiotic votes.
I suppose you might say I have a fear of the fear of terrorism.
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RE: I'm not afraid of terrorism, are you?
July 23, 2016 at 7:15 pm
(July 23, 2016 at 7:14 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I wouldn't say I'm 'afraid' of terrorism, exactly (and I've lived through several instances of it). What I am is concerned over how the threat of terrorism leads people in authority to make idiotic decisions, and leads the populous to cast idiotic votes.
I suppose you might say I have a fear of the fear of terrorism.
Boru
You've lived through several. Really.
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