(July 23, 2016 at 1:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No candidate can bring those jobs back, or keep them here.  Not for 4 dollars more, not for 40, not for 400.  That;s not what wealth or progress looks like in the first place.  Most of us couldn;t pay our rent for -current- factory wages.  

Yep. Here's what 90% don't understand: we are paid for our value, not for our work.

What's the value of a guy who can use a nail gun, or screw on a car door? Not that much, really.

Our problem is our efficiency: really, anyone who can afford to put a system in place can basically wind up that system and watch in generate big bucks. Anyone who can't is for the most part unlikely to be necessary enough to pull in big dollars. Not wanting to pay someone more than they're really worth is seen by many as "taking my job." But nobody really owes anybody a job.

So the question is-- can we find a way to make the entire population useful? The only way to do that, I think, is war. Because in war, more is better: the more bombs, planes, whatever you can build, the better you'll do. There's no limit on the number of factories, and the number of workers, needed. Either that, or a world-wide mission to destroy an incoming meteor, or to populate mars, or something epic like that.

100 years ago... War today is much less labour intensive and rapidly becoming far more automated.
Whilst the infantryman may never actually be replaced units are smaller and vastly more efficient than their predecessors.
Pilots may well be a thing of the past in the next decade or two, naval crew are rapidly diminishing and the tank might become obsolete in the face of airpower.

(July 22, 2016 at 5:28 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(July 22, 2016 at 5:23 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I mean there's about 1000 threads saying fuck Donald trump, fuck the police, fuck the FBI, and there's significantly less threads about fuck black lives matter fuck Bernie sanders and so on.

Hope I can provide some well needed balance to these forums then.

Fuck Black Lives Matter. Fuck Bernie Sanders. Fuck Hillary Clinton. Fuck liberals. Fuck feminists. Fuck social justice warriors. And especially fuck those people who over-use the term "racist" when someone disagrees with them.

Damn, who AREN'T we fucking these days?!

(July 28, 2016 at 10:43 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(July 22, 2016 at 5:28 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Hope I can provide some well needed balance to these forums then.

Fuck Black Lives Matter. Fuck Bernie Sanders. Fuck Hillary Clinton. Fuck liberals. Fuck feminists. Fuck social justice warriors. And especially fuck those people who over-use the term "racist" when someone disagrees with them.

Damn, who AREN'T we fucking these days?!

Republicans, apparently.

But nobody wants to fuck them, because. . . boooorrrrinnnng.

--edit--
Wait. Got my new sig!

(July 22, 2016 at 5:28 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(July 22, 2016 at 5:23 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I mean there's about 1000 threads saying fuck Donald trump, fuck the police, fuck the FBI, and there's significantly less threads about fuck black lives matter fuck Bernie sanders and so on.

Hope I can provide some well needed balance to these forums then.

Fuck Black Lives Matter. Fuck Bernie Sanders. Fuck Hillary Clinton. Fuck liberals. Fuck feminists. Fuck social justice warriors. And especially fuck those people who over-use the term "racist" when someone disagrees with them.

Racist.

(July 29, 2016 at 7:02 am)bennyboy Wrote: Republicans, apparently.

But nobody wants to fuck them, because. . . boooorrrrinnnng.

--edit--
Wait.  Got my new sig!

In Napos case it would be UKIP, maybe the BNP.

(July 28, 2016 at 10:43 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(July 22, 2016 at 5:28 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Hope I can provide some well needed balance to these forums then.

Fuck Black Lives Matter. Fuck Bernie Sanders. Fuck Hillary Clinton. Fuck liberals. Fuck feminists. Fuck social justice warriors. And especially fuck those people who over-use the term "racist" when someone disagrees with them.

Damn, who AREN'T we fucking these days?!

Me, I couldn't get laid in a whorehouse with a fistfull of roofies.

There's always oneself [emoji6]

Or me.

Napoléon Wrote:

Quote:I'll tell you why it's such a shitty idea. Because it promotes laziness. If everyone can get all they need and want for nothing, human ingenuity stops. Progress stops.

Evidence?