Thread opens with examples of VP political race to the bottom and degenerates into race to the bottom of another sort, complete with two-man circle jerk.

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(August 5, 2016 at 2:18 am)Alex K Wrote:

(August 5, 2016 at 2:10 am)Cato Wrote: Not as bad to be sure, but it's still a race to the bottom:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QcgrTZ3bGnQ

What, so what if he's not exceptionally charismatic, he could be a brilliant VP for all I know. Or is being a bit boring now on the same level as being an anti science bigot

The Vice-Presidency does not require brilliance.  It requires patience.

(August 5, 2016 at 6:26 am)Alex K Wrote: The founding fathers, for better or worse, seem to serve as a kind of ersatz messianic figures. Isn't perceived "intent" of the founding fathers always the ultimate arbiter?

Whenever you hear someone appealing to their views, you may be assured to a good amount of certainty that you're hearing a fallacious appeal to authority.

(August 5, 2016 at 9:53 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Thread opens with examples of VP political race to the bottom and degenerates into race to the bottom of another sort, complete with two-man circle jerk.

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OMFG I never laudghed this much in my whole life.............

I'm glad I spread the mayo around so Crossless could make you laugh ^___^

See. The mayo, the mayo is innocent ^____^

(August 6, 2016 at 1:44 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I'm glad I spread the mayo around so Crossless could make you laugh ^___^

See. The mayo, the mayo is innocent ^____^

Yeah... No.

The sooner you get it, the better.

Sooner I get what? ^______________^

Take a hint. Please.

(August 5, 2016 at 7:22 am)Alex K Wrote: That bizarre cult you are talking about is the United States, my friend. The founding documents and the founding fathers lend an immense amount of stability throughout the centuries. Whatever the disagreements are in US politics, the buck usually stops at the founding fathers and their documents.

The ideals expressed in our documents are beautiful things. The practice is obviously imperfect; we obviously still have a long ways to go.

The bizarre part, to me, is the thinking that implies that because these men had these grand ideals on some subjects, everything they thought was golden. It wasn't, and even they themselves recognized it (hence the amendment process for the Constitution, f'rinstance).

All giants have feet of clay. Those Americans who fetishize the Founding Fathers, however, overlook that basic fact of humanity.