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August 19, 2016 at 9:22 am
(August 19, 2016 at 9:15 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: The words private prison complex in the thread title should've tipped you off even if you're too lazy to read one word of the OP before responding to it.
1. There's no such a thing as a private prison in my country, which is why I asked but it looks like only Rhythm ain't so lazy to take the time and answer my question.
2. For unknown reasons I get "this page is unreachable from your country" for Washington Post. I suppose one of the reasons might be the fact I'm using mobile internet with dynamic IP address.
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August 19, 2016 at 9:27 am
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Ah, well..I'll catch you up with the article. I should have linked a quote for that reason.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...ee7b1bc776
Quote:The Justice Department plans to end its use of private prisons after officials concluded the facilities are both less safe and less effective at providing correctional services than those run by the government.
At the federal level, we're going to phase them out...because regardless of (or in addition to...depending on how you approach it) whatever objections I've brought up in this thread..they didn't deliver the service they promised, didn't meet the conditions for which they existed in the first place.
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August 19, 2016 at 9:43 am
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(August 19, 2016 at 9:27 am)Rhythm Wrote: The Justice Department plans to end its use of private prisons after officials concluded the facilities are both less safe and less effective at providing correctional services than those run by the government. I see. But won't it lead to overcrowded government prisons? I admit I've never been in prison but it's not hard to imagine what would happen when space becomes insufficient with too many people inside and limited resources.
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August 19, 2016 at 9:53 am
(August 19, 2016 at 9:43 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: I see. But won't it lead to overcrowded government prisons? I admit I've never been in prison but it's not hard to imagine what would happen when space becomes insufficient with too many people inside and limited resources.
Again, look at the American justice system and it's punitive character. That's the way to understand the largest prison population on earth. In it's extreme it can land yourself in jail for taking a piss in the streets, and, although it never was the intent to wave your dick at innocent bystanders, on the sex offenders list.
There's no need for as much prison space if you don't imprison people for petty crimes or nuisances.
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August 19, 2016 at 9:57 am
Yay the end of the prison industrial complex is here were one step closer away from a dystopia.
Now if we could only end the god damn drug war and set up a system that doesn't ruin people when they go
to jail but actually rehabilitate them to put them back into society as hard working people.
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August 19, 2016 at 10:00 am
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(August 19, 2016 at 9:43 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: (August 19, 2016 at 9:27 am)Rhythm Wrote: The Justice Department plans to end its use of private prisons after officials concluded the facilities are both less safe and less effective at providing correctional services than those run by the government. I see. But won't it lead to overcrowded government prisons? I admit I've never been in prison but it's not hard to imagine what would happen when space becomes insufficient with too many people inside and limited resources.
The private prisons won;t even -break ground- on construction unless they;re allowed to generously overcrowd their own prisons. They actually get states to agree.in a legally binding way..to that. Whereas for the government it is a limit that when it is reached, we go to extraordinary lengths to ameliorate that problem...such as considering funding a private, for profit prison. Apparently, that money would have been better spent developing the public (which is to say government operated) prison system. A bunk is a bunk...we can build boxes too.
Tight knot, isn't it? lol.
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RE: Private Prison Complex receives terrible news.
August 19, 2016 at 10:47 am
(August 19, 2016 at 9:53 am)abaris Wrote: There's no need for as much prison space if you don't imprison people for petty crimes or nuisances.
True but somehow I doubt all these people will be pardoned with removing (or whatever they plan to do) private prisons.
@Rhythm Yes, it is a tight knot. Sounds like something that will never be unraveled.
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August 19, 2016 at 10:55 am
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The private prisons will do just fine under a Clinton Administration. They have given her campaign millions. The e-mails show she likes to return favours to large donors so I think she will reward the prison-industrial complex for their huge donations. She got more donations from private prisons than any of the Republicans, if I remember rightly.
This article mentions her private-prison donors:
https://www.rt.com/usa/318180-clinton-bl...r-prisons/
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August 19, 2016 at 10:58 am
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The shittiness that is concerns me more than the shittiness that might-be, most times. Trump might ruin america™, and that would be terrible on so many levels for so many people.
Clinton will support the prison complex, and that is terrible on so many levels, for so many people. I;m sure Trump would too..if they'd just give him some fucking money already - but I guess they don't see him as a commensurate return on investment as they see Clinton. I can understand.
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August 19, 2016 at 11:02 am
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