My guess is there's nothing awful in them. Just the proof that Dump is anything but a bilionnaire. Given all the businesses he ran into the ground, this shouldn't surprise anyone. He's a con artist and his con would become obvious once he releases his tax records.

(August 24, 2016 at 8:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The IRS cannot release anyone's information except as allowed by Section 6103 of the Code.  There is absolutely nothing to stop a citizen from releasing his/her own information.  Drumpf's protestations about that simple fact are a lie.
Something he is quite proficient at.

Strangely, I know several people who refuse to vote for Clinton because they say she's a liar, but they're voting Trump.



Not paying attention, apparently. Some of them are self-described liberals FFS.

Or just fucking stupid.

(August 24, 2016 at 8:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Or just fucking stupid.

Well, maybe one of them, and he's no liberal. Hell of a welder, though, and the kind of guy you can really depend on when the shit hits the fan.

I think that his 2015 income tax return would provide more evidence number of things we already know:

He not only is not very charitable, but he has not given to many causes he says he has. As a doner, Trump is very much a the-check-is-in-the-mail kind if guy. He claims to have given the profits from all of his books, and Trump U, to charity. But the donees appear nonexistent. He also also routinely claims to have given money actually given by The Trump Foundation or other people. Since he hasn't given to the Trump Foundation in years, that isn't Trump's money.

He's net worth is somewhere between three and four billion, not the ten or eleven he claims.

He doesn't own many of the buildings with his name on them.

He owes a lot of money to Chinese and Russian companies.

He has a lot of assets that would be conflicts of interest should he become president and he has zero interest in selling them off.

He doesn't pay much in the way of taxes.

That last would be the most revealing, as the other items are easier to show without tax returns. The Washington Post, Fortune Magazine, and The New York Times are responsible for most of our info. If his supporters cared, they wouldn't vote for him now. One year of taxes won't change their minds and they won't give us all that much more information that hasn't been unearthed already. Ten or twenty years of taxes would be much more revealing.

He won't release his taxes because he considers releasing any info to be a sign of weakness. Beyond that, having all that info on the table would hamper future business negotiations.

(August 24, 2016 at 8:53 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(August 24, 2016 at 8:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Or just fucking stupid.

Well, maybe one of them, and he's no liberal. Hell of a welder, though, and the kind of guy you can really depend on when the shit hits the fan.

I spent over an hour talking to a bright, likable (I like him anyway), honest, open, electrician while he rewired our downstairs. He's voting for Trump because he, "tells it like it is." What exactly he tells like it is, I couldn't figure out. I'm really sure his motivation isn't racist. If he is, he does a hell of an acting job given his coworkers who are both Slavic and Hispanic. He's proud of his wife's education and working prowess.

Ya got me.

Quote: "tells it like it is."

Translation:  He makes racists feel all warm and fuzzy in their shorts.

(August 24, 2016 at 6:01 pm)Alex K Wrote: Didn't Buffet already state explicitely that audits are not a hindrance for releasing the information?

Richard Nixon released his tax returns in 1973 while he was being audited.  No rules against it.  The only logical conclusion that I can draw is that releasing his tax returns will hurt him more than not releasing and dealing with the speculation.  The Washington outsider who is going to clean up town is certainly falling in line with being evasive and lacking transparency.

(August 24, 2016 at 5:57 pm)Alex K Wrote:

(August 24, 2016 at 5:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I had to stop reading after 'scrotum twisting'.

Boru

yeah, stupid mirror neurons

Meh, I've got battleship chains down there, a little twist ain't nothin'.

(August 24, 2016 at 8:19 pm)abaris Wrote: My guess is there's nothing awful in them. Just the proof that Dump is anything but a bilionnaire. Given all the businesses he ran into the ground, this shouldn't surprise anyone. He's a con artist and his con would become obvious once he releases his tax records.

I think it's either that or that he isn't paying much in taxes.