(August 30, 2016 at 5:40 am)robvalue Wrote: Especially for religious people, it's weird how they are criticizing their god's continued design choices.

Well, maybe I'm too Darwinistic, but I always consider these sexual fixations of many religions as some weird and archaic way to preserve the species.

Me, even while I was mildly religious, I would have done Joe or Jane without feeling guilty if I felt that way. My personal prejudices rather resulted in considering gays a joke, and not because of any religious regulations.

Your post is very leading and erroneous to boot. When someone closes their eyes for the last time in this life, what Pete believes or does not believe regarding homosexuality is going to matter zilch.
A relevant question perhaps could be what does God have to say on the matter.

Relying on "God seddso" as justification for denying people their rights is heinous.

(August 30, 2016 at 6:03 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Your post is very leading and erroneous to boot.  When someone closes their eyes for the last time in this life, what Pete believes or does not believe regarding homosexuality is going to matter zilch.  
A relevant question perhaps could be what does God have to say on the matter.

So what does "God" say on the matter?

(August 28, 2016 at 10:14 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) You keep on mentioning a God that according to you does not exist.
If he doesn't exist why then he suppose to do this or that?
Yours is an obsession.  

Every time I think I won't respond to Rik's idiocy, I get drawn back in.

You do get that there are billions of people on the planet that do believe in one of the gay hating gods, right? and you also understand that belief in one of the gay hating gods leads believers to real world negative consequences, right?

Beliefs don't live in a vacuum.

Those are the people that this question is aimed at.

Just because the OP used the word "god", does not mean he believes it exists.

Quote:2) Not all theists are against gays.
I am one of those.
My policy is live and let live.

One of the only rational things you've ever posted.

(August 30, 2016 at 6:25 pm)The_Empress Wrote:

(August 30, 2016 at 6:03 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Your post is very leading and erroneous to boot.  When someone closes their eyes for the last time in this life, what Pete believes or does not believe regarding homosexuality is going to matter zilch.  
A relevant question perhaps could be what does God have to say on the matter.

So what does "God" say on the matter?

(August 30, 2016 at 6:52 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote:

(August 30, 2016 at 6:25 pm)The_Empress Wrote: So what does "God" say on the matter?

Obviously nothing, going by the Sound of Silence you posted in response.

(August 30, 2016 at 6:25 pm)The_Empress Wrote:

(August 30, 2016 at 6:03 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Your post is very leading and erroneous to boot.  When someone closes their eyes for the last time in this life, what Pete believes or does not believe regarding homosexuality is going to matter zilch.  
A relevant question perhaps could be what does God have to say on the matter.

So what does "God" say on the matter?

Not even considering going down that rabbit hole. There is a strong double standard and bias in this forum. Understandable the OP being 12, but the nontheists here are very slow to correct eachother.

Many here presume to speak for all Christians as if we are a hive mind. BS. I don't hold to a fraction of the positions most here would state I do, and surely not for the same rationale.

Like I said, what I think, or any solitary person thinks on this issue is going to be irrelevant.

The LGBT issue is extremely sensitive and personal. In regards to Christianity, it is not as simple as a commandment against murder, theft, or the like. Our sexuality is how many of us define ourselves and is much more than a simple act. It is why so many take such a personal offense to it. Perhaps they feel it critiques them at their core.

I do not wish to alienate anyone. Pushing people away is not the example Christ modeled.

If God makes gay people and then has a problem with them for being gay, we shouldn't just disregard what he says about them, we should ignore everything he ever says. What a bell end!

(August 30, 2016 at 7:06 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: The LGBT issue is extremely sensitive and personal.   In regards to Christianity,  it is not as simple as a commandment against murder, theft, or the like.  Our sexuality is how many of us define ourselves and is much more than a simple act.  It is why so many take such a personal offense to it.  Perhaps they  feel it critiques them at their core.  

Why exactly do you perceive sexuality to be a sensitive issue? It's a natural urge for every creature. Surpressing or regulating it is unnatural, since it isn't anyone's business what happens between consenting adults of whatever gender. That's my take on it - now it's your turn.