(September 4, 2016 at 6:24 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:

(September 4, 2016 at 6:43 am)Little Rik Wrote: Me generalize?
Not at all boy.
You show me where I did generalized and I will give you a bar of pure gold.

My attitude towards atheists is this.....I have a good degree of respect for the atheists that don't believe in God until they find evidence that God exist but less respect for those that don't believe on the ground that it is impossible that God exist and a possible evidence must be an hallucination anyway.

What about kids?
Some kids are able to do terrible things but most kids are ok.
As I already said older people went through what you are experience right now but they control their emotions and try to respect older people.
You don't and that is your main problem.
For you older people are all pedophiles and old fogey and than you say that is me that generalize.
Now let us talk about evolution.
Show that you put the money where your mouth is and explain how evolution works considering that you
claim to know what evolution is all about.

Have a lovely day boy.
(can you spend one single day without swearing or you find it impossible?)  

Quote:You generalized about kids my age.
And here's the quote you hypocritical fuck.

Quote:I don't believe for a minute that you are 12.
At 12 years kids are still quite so to speak

If you still haven't got it I base my opinions on what the medical science say.
So no generalization here.
Around 12 is the time that changes occur but it is at the age of 16-17 that puberty end that is why I said that you must be around 16-17 considering that you show a terrible mood of cockiness and arrogance
and this appear at the end of the puberty cycle.

For girls, puberty begins around ages 10 or 11 and ends around age 16. Boys enter puberty later than girls – usually around age 12 – and it lasts until around ages 16 or 17.

http://www.pamf.org/parenting-teens/heal...rowth.html

 

Quote: and
Some kids are able to do terrible things but most kids are ok.

I already shown what 12 years old can do.
Read my previous link that I put few days ago.

Quote:Why the hell does someones beliefs matter to you? Do you care if they're gay? Or lesbian? Or trans?

1)  It doesn't concern me whether people are gays, lesbian or trans.
I never made a derogatory comment on the issue so stop imaging things.

Quote:You're made out of the same shit that they are made of.

2) In part only and only related to the physical aspect.
As far as the consciousness that is a totally different thing.

Quote:And I'm not going to respect every person older than me. Hitler was a Christian, he was older than me and he cared about dogs and his people.
Should I respect him?
Fuck no. Same with Stalin who's an atheist.

Your theory sound good.
Unfortunately you already compromise yourself by saying that older people are pedophiles and old fogey.

Quote:And I assumed you were a pedophile because it seems you have nothing better to do than slowly lure me into your cult.

I lure you?
What a joke son.
If I would have done so I would have lie to you all the way but as you can see I always speak what I think and this is something that you do not like.

Quote:I didn't say I know all about evolution.
But here's what I know.
We originate from the first organic life form... A unicellular prokaryotic life form.
It most likely reproduced asexually (less genetic diversity) and feed itself through chemical synthesis.
It's dna and rna were very simple and did not mutate easily.
Over time there were small mutations which led to the following...
Sexual reproduction,
Genders,
Eukaryotes,
Photosynthesis (etc.),
Complex dna and rna,
Different cells (muscle, brain, nerves)
Simple eyes,
Limbs,
And so much more.

Good effort son.
Unfortunately you forget to mention the most important thing in that evolution is driven by an increase in consciousness.

Quote:I can spend one day without profanity, (not swearing, different terminology) but why the fuck should I listen to you?

I doubt that you can do that considering that almost every post of yours contain a swearing.
Good lack anyway boy.  

Learn to use the fucking quoting system.

(September 4, 2016 at 1:34 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 4, 2016 at 9:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: Sometime I also fantasize but mainly when I sleep and in my dreams.
I just can not avoid it but when I am awake I avoid as much as I can.
If the mind is not kept under control it become like a mad monkey that jump very fast from
tree to tree as if it is hunted and chased by a monster.
I think that by letting the conscious mind to rest she will surely be more able to extract more knowledge from the subconscious mind.

If your mind jumps "very fast" from topic to topic, you should see a doctor.  That's not normal.

I didn't say that my mind..........jumps "very fast" from topic to topic......
I instead say that if it is not controlled it will do so.
By practicing yoga is all very easy to control the mind.

Quote:A restful mind is good for some things and bad for others.  Rushing to embrace one or the other is irrational and probably harmful in the long run.

It is all relative yog.
By playing chess or do things that require a big mental effort you strain your mind.
If you instead use that mental strength to practice yoga meditation then a positive reward take place.

Quote:"Apart from the direct training that the Vinaya provides, it also establishes a relationship with lay people without whose co-operation it would be impossible to live as a monk. A monk is able to live as a mendicant because lay people respect the monastic conventions and are prepared to help to support him. " -- http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/budd...yguide.htm

The theory is one thing.
The practice a total different one.
I see Buddhists monks in Thailand that they smoke or eat non vegetarian food which is against Buddha teaching.

(September 5, 2016 at 5:28 am)Little Rik Wrote:

Quote:A restful mind is good for some things and bad for others.  Rushing to embrace one or the other is irrational and probably harmful in the long run.

It is all relative yog.
By playing chess or do things that require a big mental effort you strain your mind.
If you instead use that mental strength to practice yoga meditation then a positive reward take place.

This is nothing but a bare assertion.

Quote:I looked further into the literature. In 1992, David Shapiro, a professor at UCLA Irvine, published an article about the effects of meditation retreats. After examining 27 people with different levels of meditation experience, he found 63 per cent of them had suffered at least one negative effect and seven per cent profoundly adverse effects.

The negative effects included anxiety, panic, depression, pain, confusion and disorientation. But perhaps only the least experienced felt them – and might several days of meditation not overwhelm those who were relatively new to the practice? The answer was no. When Shapiro divided the larger group into those with lesser and greater experience, there were no differences: all had an equal number of adverse experiences. And an earlier study had arrived at a similar, but even more surprising conclusion: those with more experience also had considerably more adverse effects than the beginners.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/...68291.html

(September 5, 2016 at 4:25 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 5, 2016 at 12:04 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Sane people don't "fantasize" about your "god". What is there to fantasize?
That the magical sky daddy is secretly Morgan Freeman hiding in your closet?

Wrong again boy.  
If you pay enough attention to what atheists write in this forum and I guess in other forums as well you would have noticed that they fantasize all the time about a God that according to them does not exist.
I loss the count of how many times atheists say that this God is a bastard because he let people suffer
and starve.
And by the way they keep on saying HE as if God would be a male.

Quote:And your mind shouldn't jump from topic to topic very fast.
That's not good.
It's not even ADD or ADHD.
Go to a doctor, this could be very, very bad.

Everybody dream here and there during the night so I am not the only one who does so.
It is by dreaming-fantasize during the day that is not good.
Did I say that I do so during the day?
You are not reading properly what people write that is why it is you that need either to put your spectacles on or see a doctor.  

No one fantasizes about god. We just think about the ideology deeply to see through its fallacies.

And you didn't specify, but just make sure your dreams have some relation to the part of your day or emotions.

(September 5, 2016 at 5:10 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 4, 2016 at 6:24 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: If you still haven't got it I base my opinions on what the medical science say.
So no generalization here.
Around 12 is the time that changes occur but it is at the age of 16-17 that puberty end that is why I said that you must be around 16-17 considering that you show a terrible mood of cockiness and arrogance
and this appear at the end of the puberty cycle.

For girls, puberty begins around ages 10 or 11 and ends around age 16. Boys enter puberty later than girls – usually around age 12 – and it lasts until around ages 16 or 17.

http://www.pamf.org/parenting-teens/heal...rowth.html

 


I already shown what 12 years old can do.
Read my previous link that I put few days ago.



1)  It doesn't concern me whether people are gays, lesbian or trans.
I never made a derogatory comment on the issue so stop imaging things.




2) In part only and only related to the physical aspect.
As far as the consciousness that is a totally different thing


Your theory sound good.
Unfortunately you already compromise yourself by saying that older people are pedophiles and old fogey.



I lure you?
What a joke son.
If I would have done so I would have lie to you all the way but as you can see I always speak what I think and this is something that you do not like.


Good effort son.
Unfortunately you forget to mention the most important thing in that evolution is driven by an increase in consciousness.




I doubt that you can do that considering that almost every post of yours contain a swearing.
Good lack anyway boy.  

I didn't say you were wrong about puberty (and you can't base your opinions on medical science, you make a statement based on the facts of
medical sciences).

But you were wrong in saying kids are generally quiet at that age. That is simply not true. I know of only a few peers who are quiet to that extent.

A twelve year old can break shit, so can a teenager or adult.

1) You seem to have less respect for atheists so I simply assumed that maybe you felt the same about them, not that you do. It was possible.

2) Idk what to say.

And I didn't say that all people are old fogeys and pedophiles.
Just you.

And, your grammar... "Your theory sounds good"*

And just in case you don't know what theory means...

It is a hypothesis that has been backed up with proofs, facts, evidence, and etc and has been repetitively tested in a reconstruct-able lab.

• A hypothesis is just an idea that can be put through testing.

•An idea is Christianity, sadly this one cannot be tested.

You lure me with lies and a promise of an eternal heaven and this theology threatens me in saying that I will be sent to an eternal hell for "sins".
Just because I'll have safe sex in the future and often (probably not, lol) doesn't mean I deserve to go to hell. This moral system sucks.
And what if I remain bi (I think) for all my life. Where am I gonna go?
And I'm lured through the promise of a promised land and magical sky daddy.

So? That just looks even deeper through the fallacy of god.

That fact that you said "almost" every post I make uses profanity supports the theory that I simply can stop at any given moment.

(September 5, 2016 at 9:33 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 5, 2016 at 5:28 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is all relative yog.
By playing chess or do things that require a big mental effort you strain your mind.
If you instead use that mental strength to practice yoga meditation then a positive reward take place.

This is nothing but a bare assertion.

Quote:I looked further into the literature. In 1992, David Shapiro, a professor at UCLA Irvine, published an article about the effects of meditation retreats. After examining 27 people with different levels of meditation experience, he found 63 per cent of them had suffered at least one negative effect and seven per cent profoundly adverse effects.

The negative effects included anxiety, panic, depression, pain, confusion and disorientation. But perhaps only the least experienced felt them – and might several days of meditation not overwhelm those who were relatively new to the practice? The answer was no. When Shapiro divided the larger group into those with lesser and greater experience, there were no differences: all had an equal number of adverse experiences. And an earlier study had arrived at a similar, but even more surprising conclusion: those with more experience also had considerably more adverse effects than the beginners.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/...68291.html

Wrong again yog.  

Yoga meditation require not hard work but very very hard mental work.
Out of 100 people who start this practice maybe only one or two continue for sometime
and out of this one or two 90% of them stop practicing after sometime due to the frustration
of not getting an easy and mystical meditation.
Been there done that yog.

When your link say............After examining 27 people with different levels of meditation experience, he found 63 per cent of them had suffered at least one negative effect and seven per cent profoundly adverse effects.....it is obvious that D.Shapiro examined mainly those who fail and therefore I agree with him that meditation may have negative effect but negative effect for those who fail only.
For those who overcome the difficulties is a different story.

The same story apply to anyone who wish to get a degree in something.
Only few people succeed while most of them fail.
I once want to get a black belt in Aikido.
After the few month of hard work I gave up.
I was frustrated no question about it.
That is quite natural that by not succeeding a person feel negative effect.

If this Shapiro wish really to know about negative or positive effect on meditation he should come
to one of mine group meditation and interview those who succeed.

One more important point.

There are different types of yoga meditation.
Not all of them lead to a mystical meditation.
There are certain rules to follow if you want that the meditation lead to a mystical experience and progress.
The most important point is to have the proper mantra.
Only a real guru can do that.
Most of the gurus give old mantras that can not possibly lead in the correct direction.
Other rules are that you close your eyes and keep your spine straight during meditation,
that you follow a vegetarian or vegan diet and several other things.
I don't really know where this guy went to do his research but it is obvious to me that he didn't understand how the system works.  

(September 5, 2016 at 12:12 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:

(September 5, 2016 at 4:25 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong again boy.  
If you pay enough attention to what atheists write in this forum and I guess in other forums as well you would have noticed that they fantasize all the time about a God that according to them does not exist.
I loss the count of how many times atheists say that this God is a bastard because he let people suffer
and starve.
And by the way they keep on saying HE as if God would be a male.




Everybody dream here and there during the night so I am not the only one who does so.
It is by dreaming-fantasize during the day that is not good.
Did I say that I do so during the day?
You are not reading properly what people write that is why it is you that need either to put your spectacles on or see a doctor.  

No one fantasizes about god. We just think about the ideology deeply to see through its fallacies.

And you didn't specify, but just make sure your dreams have some relation to the part of your day or emotions.

What ideology?
My ideology?
God ideology?
Religions ideology or which other ideology are you referring to?  

You tell us LR. You're the one making the unfounded accusations.

(September 5, 2016 at 12:32 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: I didn't say you were wrong about puberty (and you can't base your opinions on medical science, you make a statement based on the facts of
medical sciences).

But you were wrong in saying kids are generally quiet at that age. That is simply not true. I know of only a few peers who are quiet to that extent.

A twelve year old can break shit, so can a teenager or adult.

1) You seem to have less respect for atheists so I simply assumed that maybe you felt the same about them, not that you do. It was possible.

2) Idk what to say.

And I didn't say that all people are old fogeys and pedophiles.
Just you.

And, your grammar... "Your theory sounds good"*

And just in case you don't know what theory means...

It is a hypothesis that has been backed up with proofs, facts, evidence, and etc and has been repetitively tested in a reconstruct-able lab.

• A hypothesis is just an idea that can be put through testing.

•An idea is Christianity, sadly this one cannot be tested.

You lure me with lies and a promise of an eternal heaven and this theology threatens me in saying that I will be sent to an eternal hell for "sins".
Just because I'll have safe sex in the future and often (probably not, lol) doesn't mean I deserve to go to hell. This moral system sucks.
And what if I remain bi (I think) for all my life. Where am I gonna go?
And I'm lured through the promise of a promised land and magical sky daddy.

So? That just looks even deeper through the fallacy of god.

That fact that you said "almost" every post I make uses profanity supports the theory that I simply can stop at any given moment.

1) Let us talk about theories first.
Originally in Greek theory was the opposite of practice.
Practice is doing while theory meant not doing.
In modern science and medicine theory may well be something full of fact and evidence
but the original meaning of theory is not doing and only guessing that something may be true
so when I say theory I only mean guessing.
Read here to get a bit of knowledge about the word theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

2) So you reckon that I am a pedophile and an old fogey.
And your evidence is......?

3) I lure you?
Lure you where?
You must be obsessed with the idea that somebody lure you somewhere.
Give evidence that I lure you or shut up.


Oh, by the way congratulation for the first post without a swearing.