RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 10, 2016 at 3:20 am
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Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
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(September 5, 2016 at 7:56 am)SerenelyBlue Wrote: I am intimidated by the fine tuning argument. In the past I subscribed to the "god of the gaps" view, but now I am more sensible. I believe, or want to believe, that the universe has a natural beginning and it makes sense to me that the universe probably went through a many versions before this one originated. I haven't read through all this so I assume the "fine tuning" argument has been taken apart already. If not, I'll gladly do so. I find the "multiverse" hypothesis to be worth considering. I don't know enough about it to know whether there is any evidence, or even if there could ever possibly be any evidence. It seems unfalsifiable to me. Feel free to send me a private message.
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Wouldn't the mathematics of a complete ToE be hard evidence for if there is a multiverse?
(September 10, 2016 at 8:37 am)RozKek Wrote: Wouldn't the mathematics of a complete ToE be hard evidence for if there is a multiverse? You mean if we had a complete TOE written down which explains all observations but also entails a multiverse?
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RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 10, 2016 at 10:09 am
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(September 10, 2016 at 8:55 am)Alex K Wrote:(September 10, 2016 at 8:37 am)RozKek Wrote: Wouldn't the mathematics of a complete ToE be hard evidence for if there is a multiverse? yis Let's say we have never observed a multiverse and let's say it's impossible to. Would the mathematics of a ToE with a 100% certainty confirm if a multiverse exists or not? RE: Is there a real chance that there is a multiverse?
September 10, 2016 at 4:24 pm
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(September 10, 2016 at 3:20 am)bennyboy Wrote:Glad you found that one!(September 10, 2016 at 1:11 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Perhaps I've missed my calling in entertainment... That's half of a continuous path (infinite knot) confined to 3 spheres. As there are 6 around every 1 in the metaverse, this path traces (from between 2 spheres, first glue point) an upwards 2/3 spin before hitting the next sphere (second glue point) and crossing the equator to travel for 1/3 spin down around it (third glue point), before hitting the third sphere for another 2/3 upwards spin (we just made a proton out of quark relationships). This arrives back at your starting point but at a different angle of incidence. To return to the same angle, simply trace the rest of the path, 1/3 down, 2/3 up, 1/3 down...we just made a neutron. This is why they are together in the center of atoms and why their quark are so arranged. The angle of the path never changes, it's basically a straight line (closed loop) around 3 spheres. Spherical geometry. This feature is within a single plane of spheres....where they are strongly connected This is one of the major paths I found in the metaversal flow between universes. It is the same patterning agent for every universe. Aonther is the blue orbital band between sphere planes aka the "weak" connection. It forms a "positive" and "negative" band around each universe, at .62ish, the distance from equator to pole. I'm sure some one well verse in spherical geometry could do the equation and tell me if it's .618...the golden ratio. Anyway, relative to a universe there is a positive and negative band, above and below the equator...but to the band itself, it's part of a neutral plane of bands. These bands are how force is carried in the metaverse. (September 10, 2016 at 1:25 am)Alex K Wrote: Got it - But do you know why I chose that image? The original menorah is made of gold. The first major shape formed by the universe is the sphere bubble around the smaller solid sphere center. Simplified in 2d it's a circle around a dot....a very old and famous symbol called the "circumpunct". It's the old alchemical symbol for gold among other things. The universe's EM field is the second object unfolded, a central column. Next the disk and 4 nested tori further divide the universe's internal space into 3 cupping regions of space on both sides. 6 total regions that have atomic material (2 higher densities of quarks and the 3 antimatter/quark types) The menorah is made of gold, with a central column and 3 cupping branches on either side, 6 around a 7th. But "what about the almond flowers?" you say....glad you asked! Almond blossom (like most fruit flowers) are 5 petaled. Throughout antiquity, the number 5 is associated with life itself, a prime example found in the pentagram and the golden ratio it describes. You guys might find no significance of number structure in relationship to the natural world and that's fine, but nearly all of antiquity did and they tell their stories through these means. The primary language of the universe is visual.
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Hey Bennyboy, did you ever apologize to Stimbo for setting him up in that depression thread? If you new he had just suffered a loss that was an extremely shitty thing to do.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder (September 10, 2016 at 7:24 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Hey Bennyboy, did you ever apologize to Stimbo for setting him up in that depression thread? If you new he had just suffered a loss that was an extremely shitty thing to do. Hi, Arkilogue, did you ever apologize for trolling for no reason? What the fuck are you even talking about? (September 10, 2016 at 7:33 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(September 10, 2016 at 7:24 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Hey Bennyboy, did you ever apologize to Stimbo for setting him up in that depression thread? If you new he had just suffered a loss that was an extremely shitty thing to do. Forget already? Or just oblivious... In the drug resistant depression thread, you asked out of the blue how I would console a mother who had just lost a child. My answer caused stimbo to flipout and self ban for a while. Did you or did you not know stimbo had just lost his wife?
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder (September 10, 2016 at 7:24 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Hey Bennyboy, did you ever apologize to Stimbo for setting him up in that depression thread? If you new he had just suffered a loss that was an extremely shitty thing to do. How fucking dense are you, you fucking idiot? What the fuck does that have to do with this thread, and why do you bring a sensitive subject like that up in order to make someone else feel bad? I don't even want you to answer these questions nor reply to me but I want you to think about how fucking dumb and insensitive that question was. Just when I thought you had an ounce of intelligence. |
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