(September 27, 2016 at 7:58 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:

(September 27, 2016 at 11:36 am)mlmooney89 Wrote: I love how these people come onto an atheist page thinking they can convert us with their logic and insults... it's cute.

Since when does Rik use logic?

Please point me to one of his posts where he used logic....

I said their logic. Doesn't mean it's actual logic they just think it is.

(September 28, 2016 at 9:59 am)chimp3 Wrote:

(September 28, 2016 at 9:55 am)Little Rik Wrote: You imply that if there would be a God this God would act or take action ASAP.
Why would he-she act ASAP?
Suppose you are a father and your grown up kids do something wrong.
They are grown up they got their own free will why would you intervene?
These grown up kids are now responsible for their actions.
They reach a stage in which it doesn't make sense for you to intervene.
They will sooner or later have to deal with their actions.
Why should you intervene and control their lives anymore?
It doesn't make any sense chimp.    

In case you haven't noticed many people in the world are children.

I knew you would say that or something similar.

One life is not enough to sort out all the problems in most cases.
Take someone who torture or killed many people.
How could he pay his debts in one life?
Impossible.
According to karma law one has got to be born time and time again until all debts have been paid off.
I understand that looking at a starving child it doesn't make any sense but that is the karma law.
That of course doesn't mean that we should let this child starve.
Humans did not invented the karma law but humans can and should help anyone in need.

(September 28, 2016 at 10:33 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 28, 2016 at 9:59 am)chimp3 Wrote: In case you haven't noticed many people in the world are children.

I knew you would say that or something similar.

One life is not enough to sort out all the problems in most cases.
Take someone who torture or killed many people.
How could he pay his debts in one life?
Impossible.
According to karma law one has got to be born time and time again until all debts have been paid off.
I understand that looking at a starving child it doesn't make any sense but that is the karma law.
That of course doesn't mean that we should let this child starve.
Humans did not invented the karma law but humans can and should help anyone in need.

Gibberish!

Somebody just wake up.
Somebody else goes to sleep.
LR goes to sleep.

(September 28, 2016 at 10:00 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 28, 2016 at 8:33 am)Little Rik Wrote: Oh, I see, it is impossible to demonstrate that there is karma (causes and effects).

In other words it is just a question of good luck and bad luck if someone born poor, sick, die of starvation or has his life cut short while somebody else born in top nick and live a good life?

Sure it could well be like this but LR is very very doubtful.
If this would be the case the universe would have disintegrated millions years ago.

Why would the universe have disintegrated "millions years ago?"  

(September 28, 2016 at 8:33 am)Little Rik Wrote: I understand that some people win millions at lotto but the odds to win are one in a million while the odds to lose are the opposite so good or bad luck don't make any sense in this universal reality.

Sorry yog, I don't buy your naivety.  

What exactly are you suggesting is so improbable that it could not occur?

What all this has to do with providing evidence that god exists and is perfection is beyond me.  I'm sure you've got some kind of story or analogy why this all makes sense.  What I doubt that you have is any solid evidence that this is the case.  You're talking a lot, but you're not saying much.

Easy answer yog.  

By not believing in an entity that control the universe as the atheists do then everything is based on good or bad luck.
Good luck is very rare but bad luck is the norm in life.
Not only the lottery winners are very rare but everything else is very rare.
All the good things are rare while the bad one are not.
That means that if the universe would have been based on good or bad luck the bad luck would have prevail and the universe wouldn't exist anymore but after billions of years still exist which it means that his survival is not based on good or bad luck.

You never thought about that yog, did you?  

(September 29, 2016 at 10:50 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 28, 2016 at 10:00 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Why would the universe have disintegrated "millions years ago?"  


What exactly are you suggesting is so improbable that it could not occur?

What all this has to do with providing evidence that god exists and is perfection is beyond me.  I'm sure you've got some kind of story or analogy why this all makes sense.  What I doubt that you have is any solid evidence that this is the case.  You're talking a lot, but you're not saying much.

Easy answer yog.  

By not believing in an entity that control the universe as the atheists do then everything is based on good or bad luck.
Good luck is very rare but bad luck is the norm in life.
Not only the lottery winners are very rare but everything else is very rare.
All the good things are rare while the bad one are not.
That means that if the universe would have been based on good or bad luck the bad luck would have prevail and the universe wouldn't exist anymore but after billions of years still exist which it means that his survival is not based on good or bad luck.

You never thought about that yog, did you?  

What a bunch of bollocks.  "Bad luck" isn't a reason the universe would disintegrate.   Bad luck doesn't predominate good luck in the universe because the universe isn't based on luck, it's based on the interaction of matter and energy under natural law.   I never thought about it because it's pure nonsense.

This is so stupid that it doesn't even deserve a response.

The governing factors in the evolution of the universe are law and chance. Chance doesn't equal 'luck'. Chance is simply randomness in the behavior of the universe. Randomness picks among those things that are possible. Unless you can show that there would have been some random cause that would result in the universe disintegrating, then you're just talking gibberish.

(September 29, 2016 at 11:05 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 29, 2016 at 10:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: Easy answer yog.  

By not believing in an entity that control the universe as the atheists do then everything is based on good or bad luck.
Good luck is very rare but bad luck is the norm in life.
Not only the lottery winners are very rare but everything else is very rare.
All the good things are rare while the bad one are not.
That means that if the universe would have been based on good or bad luck the bad luck would have prevail and the universe wouldn't exist anymore but after billions of years still exist which it means that his survival is not based on good or bad luck.

You never thought about that yog, did you?  

What a bunch of bollocks.  "Bad luck" isn't a reason the universe would disintegrate.   Bad luck doesn't predominate good luck in the universe because the universe isn't based on luck, it's based on the interaction of matter and energy under natural law.   I never thought about it because it's pure nonsense.

This is so stupid that it doesn't even deserve a response.

Very very silly thought yog.
Energy and matter are only two of the fundamental factors that make up the universe.
What about the others like water, space and air.
And who told you that the interaction is the reason why the universe doesn't disintegrate?

Guess, guess and more guessing yog and then you have the audacity to say that is me that
make up stories.
I can't believe it yog.  

(September 29, 2016 at 11:12 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 29, 2016 at 11:05 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: What a bunch of bollocks.  "Bad luck" isn't a reason the universe would disintegrate.   Bad luck doesn't predominate good luck in the universe because the universe isn't based on luck, it's based on the interaction of matter and energy under natural law.   I never thought about it because it's pure nonsense.

This is so stupid that it doesn't even deserve a response.

Very very silly thought yog.
Energy and matter are only two of the fundamental factors that make up the universe.
What about the others like water, space and air.
And who told you that the interaction is the reason why the universe doesn't disintegrate?

Guess, guess and more guessing yog and then you have the audacity to say that is me that
make up stories.
I can't believe it yog.  

You're a nutball and this is pure horseshit. Thanks for another ludicrous story, "No Evidence" Rik.

(September 28, 2016 at 10:21 am)mlmooney89 Wrote:

(September 27, 2016 at 7:58 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Since when does Rik use logic?

Please point me to one of his posts where he used logic....

I said their 'logic'. Doesn't mean it's actual logic they just think it is.

Fixed that for you (my bold), though your disclaimer in the following sentence should have done the trick.

(September 29, 2016 at 11:16 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 29, 2016 at 11:12 am)Little Rik Wrote: Very very silly thought yog.
Energy and matter are only two of the fundamental factors that make up the universe.
What about the others like water, space and air.
And who told you that the interaction is the reason why the universe doesn't disintegrate?

Guess, guess and more guessing yog and then you have the audacity to say that is me that
make up stories.
I can't believe it yog.  

You're a nutball and this is pure horseshit.  Thanks for another ludicrous story, "No Evidence" Rik.

It's simple. 3 + apples = puppies