(October 1, 2016 at 12:40 pm)RobertE Wrote:

(October 1, 2016 at 12:30 pm)abaris Wrote: Why? He hadn't the opportunity to fully blossom as of yet. All of the above helt positions of power. Wilders didn't as of yet. And all of the above didn't come into their full bestiality until they were at the levers of power.

That's not to say, Wilders would rise up to rival them. But I go with Orban or the PIS in Poland. That's bad enough. You don't have to be a man eating beast to be despicable.

You are taking him seriously? That is about the same as the Americans taking Trump seriously.

The orange baboon is only a few points behind in the polls.  We HAVE to take him seriously.

And one or two more major terror attacks in Europe and you may see the shit hit the fan over there, too.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe...SKCN1213Q3

Quote:An overwhelming majority of Hungarians who voted in Sunday's referendum rejected the European Union's migrant quotas as Prime Minister Viktor Orban had urged, but the estimated turnout of 45 percent will not be enough to make the vote valid.

Senior politicians from Orban's ruling Fidesz party declared victory shortly after voting finished at 1.00 p.m. ET, citing exit polls which they said showed 95 percent of Hungarian voters, or more than 3 million people, had rejected the quotas.

(October 2, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(October 1, 2016 at 12:40 pm)RobertE Wrote: You are taking him seriously? That is about the same as the Americans taking Trump seriously.

The orange baboon is only a few points behind in the polls.  We HAVE to take him seriously.

And one or two more major terror attacks in Europe and you may see the shit hit the fan over there, too.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe...SKCN1213Q3

Quote:An overwhelming majority of Hungarians who voted in Sunday's referendum rejected the European Union's migrant quotas as Prime Minister Viktor Orban had urged, but the estimated turnout of 45 percent will not be enough to make the vote valid.

Senior politicians from Orban's ruling Fidesz party declared victory shortly after voting finished at 1.00 p.m. ET, citing exit polls which they said showed 95 percent of Hungarian voters, or more than 3 million people, had rejected the quotas.

Out of all the major European nations and you pick Hungary....lol!! Why don't you pick France with its majority support for the LePen family. As for one or two more major terrorist attacks in Europe, our leaders will deal with it, but the far-right won't get anywhere.

(October 2, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:An overwhelming majority of Hungarians who voted in Sunday's referendum rejected the European Union's migrant quotas as Prime Minister Viktor Orban had urged, but the estimated turnout of 45 percent will not be enough to make the vote valid.

Senior politicians from Orban's ruling Fidesz party declared victory shortly after voting finished at 1.00 p.m. ET, citing exit polls which they said showed 95 percent of Hungarian voters, or more than 3 million people, had rejected the quotas.

An overwhelming majority of 45 percent even voting. It's invalid since the laws requires a 50 percent turnout to be binding. But that, of course, won't slow down Orban.

(October 2, 2016 at 2:38 pm)RobertE Wrote:

(October 2, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The orange baboon is only a few points behind in the polls.  We HAVE to take him seriously.

And one or two more major terror attacks in Europe and you may see the shit hit the fan over there, too.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe...SKCN1213Q3

Out of all the major European nations and you pick Hungary....lol!! Why don't you pick France with its majority support for the LePen family. As for one or two more major terrorist attacks in Europe, our leaders will deal with it, but the far-right won't get anywhere.

"It'll never happen to us."

It -is- happening to you.......

Quote:Out of all the major European nations and you pick Hungary....lol!!

Because they happened to be voting today.  You know?  Current news!

What kinda pinko commie reads international news? Get the torches, boys, I'll bring the pitchforks.

(October 2, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And one or two more major terror attacks in Europe and you may see the shit hit the fan over there, too.

Somehow, in spite of his constant assertion to not take sides, I don't think Robert ould view it as shit hitting the fan. Also, it obviously doesn't need as much as a terror attack. In Germany the rightwing AFD is strongest where there hardly are any refugees let alone terrorist attacks. People buy fear as if it Leyland Gaunt has set up shop there.

The AFD, by the way, is one of the most despicable parties that surfaced like turds in a clogged toilet recently. They're Islamophobic as well as antisemitic. Bigoted in every possible direction.

(October 2, 2016 at 6:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Because they happened to be voting today. You know? Current news!

And I correct my previous statement. Not even 40 percent of Hungarians have actually voted. 60 percent couldn't be arsed. Invalid ballot by a long chalk which doesn't prevent that turd Orban to celebrate it as a victory.

(October 2, 2016 at 2:29 pm)abaris Wrote: You did notice that I said both sides are playing the same deck of cards, do you?

No abaris, the issue is that there is no other part. The theory goes, that certain Super-Powers needed an enemy to act in its newest play; Muslims were the pick.
The list included the 'Japs=Japanese' but they were too educated and too united to act, then the 'Chings=Chinese' but again they were too united and too organised and saw through the west because they were once the fools (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars),the 'commies=communists' were a super-power themselves so they rejected the act.

So whose left, but the desert rats? They don't even have a country, and half of them is ruled -as I said- by western made regimes. And the world would buy the religious narritive in the play, because the world is too ignorant -Heck; its your is busy thinking about Brangelina; Brad and Angelina's divorce -_- -.

They will buy the 'ISIS mumbo-jumbo like the OP'.
And like many other educated indaviduals.

They played this game a lot -since the first days of imperialism-, so they know how to play.
My point -abaris-, is that there is no other player. They play cards with themselves. That's why they win.

When you say superpowers, the Soviets were not imperialist like the United States is. They supported revolution; the overthrow of corrupt dictators, in particular the goons installed by the CIA. They were not against ordinary people.

And like us they saw the danger of the Cult of Najd. The United States, blindly driven by its expansionist agenda saw millions of people as simply pawns in a geo-politucal chess board. They hate Communism not because they care about people but because it inhibits their profits. The cooperate state dominates the United States.

The two of you live in an alternate reality, don't you?