The "hive mind" around here is abuzz with intelligence and the sting of rigorous logic, but I hear it's good for stiff joints.

p.s. You shouldn't use the bible as a sword, it's a far messier and more inhumane tool of war than an actual sword.

(October 12, 2016 at 2:48 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Welcome!

As I only get involved in discussions like this in the open forum, I won't be taking you up on your offer.

Hope you get what you're looking for.

And I pray that, whether or not you get what you want, you at least get what you need.  Peace be upon you.

(October 12, 2016 at 11:38 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Hope your reasoning is better than your spelling.

Now Chad, that isn't very Swedenborgian of you.

(October 12, 2016 at 10:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What does "god" need with soldiers, anyway?

I think their job is bashing the heads of His fallen enemy's infants.

Sorry, I cannot be of any help to one clearly no where near as intelligent as me.

(October 13, 2016 at 12:18 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: I don't buy the whole "default athiesm" neutrality stance. Can you prove to me you are genuine and open to evidence? Sorry i just don't believe you. What i mean is, i'm not convinced that one could be so noble as to set their bias aside for the sake of truth. From the biblical world view, you don't want god. You think god is a big meenie! Hmph! >

This is false. I'm sorry you don't accept our claims of what atheists personally believe. Coming here and telling us we believe otherwise doesn't help anything, though.

This is what I do instead (although I borrowed this from TAE). I ask people what they believe and why. I don't tell them what they do or not believe, because that would just be cutting them out of the conversation.

For example, you have said that you believe in God. I am going to listen to what you think about that God instead of just comparing you to other people who believe in a god. I am willing to take your word on that. From that point, we can have a conversation about it. It would do me no good to claim that I don't believe that you believe that.

For example, no I don't believe your flavor of genie exists -and- no, I don't claim for a fact it doesn't .. whatever it may be. But more than that I just really don't care.

(October 13, 2016 at 12:18 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: Can you prove to me you are genuine and open to evidence?

Ironic, considering that theistic faith is based on zero evidence.

(October 13, 2016 at 12:40 am)Maelstrom Wrote:

(October 13, 2016 at 12:18 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: Can you prove to me you are genuine and open to evidence?

Ironic, considering that theistic faith is based on zero evidence.

Not theistically by the alleged originator of Christianity: John 10:37 "If I am not doing the works of My Father, then do not believe Me. 38 But if I am doing them, even though you do not believe me, believe those deeds, so that you may know and that you may believe that my Father is in me and I in my Father.”