(October 15, 2016 at 11:41 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 15, 2016 at 11:07 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I was a juror in a serial rapist trial several years ago. The guy was being accused of raping five different women. All of them took the stand to testify. In the end, we found him guilty of all charges and he got life in prison.

Unfortunately justice isn't always served. But sometimes it is. Either way, it's always worth it to speak up for yourself.

EDIT TO ADD: http://www.wtol.com/story/9960215/shahee...-in-prison

^That was it.

Whoa, that's so interesting CL!  How was that?  Were you incredibly nervous to make a decision or did you feel pretty confident about the case against the guy?

It was one of the most interesting experiences of my life. Apart from being super depressing, I loved it. 

There was plenty of DNA evidence and break in evidence. This guy didn't know his victims. He just broke into homes and raped them at knife point. So yeah, we all felt really confident in our verdict.

(October 15, 2016 at 12:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(October 15, 2016 at 11:41 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Whoa, that's so interesting CL!  How was that?  Were you incredibly nervous to make a decision or did you feel pretty confident about the case against the guy?

It was one of the most interesting experiences of my life. Apart from being super depressing, I loved it. 

There was plenty of DNA evidence and break in evidence. This guy didn't know his victims. He just broke into homes and raped them at knife point. So yeah, we all felt really confident in our verdict.

It must have felt...incredibly satisfying to put a rapist in jail! ?

(October 15, 2016 at 9:21 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 15, 2016 at 12:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It was one of the most interesting experiences of my life. Apart from being super depressing, I loved it. 

There was plenty of DNA evidence and break in evidence. This guy didn't know his victims. He just broke into homes and raped them at knife point. So yeah, we all felt really confident in our verdict.

It must have felt...incredibly satisfying to put a rapist in jail! ?

Absolutely! I'm glad those girls got justice.

Wow, Mermaid. I am so fucking sorry we're so backwards as a society that a 15 year old cannot even go to her parents for safety. Dammit that makes me ache.

(October 16, 2016 at 4:08 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Wow, Mermaid. I am so fucking sorry we're so backwards as a society that a 15 year old cannot even go to her parents for safety. Dammit that makes me ache.

I think I wasn't clear: My whole family was as supportive as they could have been. It was the community that failed me.

(October 16, 2016 at 9:19 am)Mermaid Wrote:

(October 16, 2016 at 4:08 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Wow, Mermaid. I am so fucking sorry we're so backwards as a society that a 15 year old cannot even go to her parents for safety. Dammit that makes me ache.

I think I wasn't clear: My whole family was as supportive as they could have been. It was the community that failed me.

The feeling of helplessness must have been awful. I can only imagine feeling that as a parent; knowing someone hurt your child and no one will do anything about it. [emoji853]

(October 16, 2016 at 10:10 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 16, 2016 at 9:19 am)Mermaid Wrote: I think I wasn't clear: My whole family was as supportive as they could have been. It was the community that failed me.

The feeling of helplessness must have been awful.  I can only imagine feeling that as a parent; knowing someone hurt your child and no one will do anything about it.  [emoji853]  

I can certainly appreciate that now. At the time, I was too young to get it. They never really talked about it much. That is pretty sad.

(October 16, 2016 at 9:19 am)Mermaid Wrote: It was the community that failed me.

That's really what this boils down to, in so many ways.

(October 14, 2016 at 6:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(October 14, 2016 at 3:51 pm)Drich Wrote: IDK if a sociopath could live for something other than self, for maybe a higher purpose that wouldn't be so bad... I think it is the atheist sociopath that become the Sherlock Holmes a-holes

I don't think you're a sociopath. I think you have a very unique type of personality. I think you're very thick skinned and cold headed. I think you have an air of arrogance. I think you are extremely blunt and to the point. I think you are not good with people skills. I think you don't have a good sense of tact and sensitivity when handling others. 

...Not because you're a bad person, but because, as I said, you have a unique type of personality, thick skin, and you like to be talked to in a way that is blunt and to the point. So you talk to others that way. And you don't realize (or perhaps don't care) that most people are not the same way as you, and therefore don't respond well to the way you talk to them.  

When posting here, why not try to connect with people on a more human level and talk to them in a way that is conducive to a good discussion? And be humble. If you're trying to reach people here and share a message with them and have productive discussions with them, I think you'll be much more successful if you do that.

I did it both ways.. I by profession am a salesman. (among other things) I can sell people on just about anything. But here's the thing. I like Christ am not here to sell anyone on anything. I am here to provide the truth. (think rich young ruler, think zacheus, or the guy he told let the dead bury the dead. Think of the whip he fashioned to chase the money changers out of the temple. Think of all the times he called his well meaning disciples foolish..) There is a min mandated requirement that Christ demands, before the flood gates of grace and mercy were opened.

I tried selling people, and it worked out very well if you count the numbers of followers I had. But my efforts much like the modern church turned out to be little more than a social group with a religious theme. No life changing anything happened. people gather together and were nice to one another till they weren't and they handled each other no different than anyone else. This sickened me, as at this point your way, was the only way i knew to reach out to people, and yet I could not effect any real change with nearly 100+ people to work with.

Then i prayed for God to take eveything back if he needed and show me how to effect change even if on just one life. Overtime when I opened my bible, I noticed the Jesus we were taught in sunday school, was not the Jesus of scripture. Jesus was hard and cold towards those who's hearts were hard toward God or those just going through religious motions he was sharp tongued and demanded that people use what God gave them. Paul's letters were no different, Look at how he even rebukes the members of the church. Look how paul rebuked peter for teaching circumcision...
But when they repented grace and mercy abound.

Now then with this in mind why should i compromise anything? There has been a line drawn in the sand by God and is not taking people fooled across the line. We have see said line, acknowledge and cross it on his terms. Which this generation/culture has made evil via their own personal version of morality.

I am not allowed to point to sin and demand anyone to repent, so I focus on the broken/fallacious logic that is used to defend their beliefs. I literally tailor/use the same size "hammer" on them as they use on me. If it is scaled back to a conversation then I do the same. How ever if it is escalated, well I can do that too. This subject to me is no different than any other. If a person has an emotional tie to a subject I will never force it to discussion. However if you are willing to use tragedy as a talking point then it is you who has subjected yourself to scrutiny.

This place gives no quarter and none is expected from me. that is why I too have subjects I am reserved in discussing. But at the same time I do show compassion and respect in what I say. I do think out my messages and believe it or not tone them down, like in this case.

I identified the nym may not be ready for recovery and if she wasn't then she should allowed to be pitted if that is what she wanted but I also warned this is not going to help long term. I pointed out that if she is not wanting to have to relive the whole episode over and over again, then she will need some sort of actual help and she will need to acknowledge that gathering pity and pressing it all back down is not fixing anything, that it is nothing more than a band aide.

Now if you packed that with pity/over compassionate sell, then at the end of the day the pity remains and the need to get help goes away because if the person is just seeking pity to fashion another band aide then she will be feeling better at that point. Which again does more long term harm than good.

True compassion may have you take boot to ass to push someone in a direction they may not want to go at first, but long term they themselves will see they are in a far better place.

(October 15, 2016 at 8:30 am)abaris Wrote:

(October 14, 2016 at 7:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I wasn't specifically referring to you. I know you were not any sort of driving force around the drama here.

Drich says despicable things. I say that as a former catholic who would have reacted as allergic to most he says as I am now.

There were maybe two or three instances where he said something sensible, as far as I recall. Everything else is just his paternalistic view of the world, seemingly justified by his understanding of christianity. Which he doesn't tire to claim to be the only true one.

what have I ever said that limts any freedoms/rights?

I speak of God apart from religion, Apart from religious rule and sanction. The opposite of what you said is true.

I tell people that only Christ determines who is and is not Christian. We can not award ourselves this title. Which means there could be all sorts of "non-christians" or what we consider to be nonchristians in heaven.

You guy ascribe a general sterotype and turn off your brains to eveything that does not fit what you want to understand.