I hear you , but just try to keep hold of your sanity. It's important. I have a hatred for religion, but a penchant for clarity and fairness. Religious organizations ore objects, and can be hated, burned, abolished. Religious people are our fellow humans, are subjects, and we have no right to hurt them. If we do hurt them, we are suddenly the same thing we tried to stop, people killing people over beliefs... and the cycle repeats.

I am sorry if I was biting, I do hold much respect for people. I hate everyone of them, and love them to death... The oxymoronic duality that only a thing as complex as a human could create and endure.

Thanks for sharing Northumbrian.

-Pip

(August 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm)Pippy Wrote: I really and supremely doubt that child abuse is part of Muslim faith any more (or specifically) than any other faith, or lifestyle group. Catholic priests are known to diddle. In the creepy Talmud there may be reference to molestation. Every modern group seems to hold some sick in the head people. But to say that the Muslims, at least more than the Jews and Catholics, are child rapists by nature, is horrible. It is hard for me to watch that. Go out and meet some people. do some research, don't get your world information from bigots and idiots, or you will be a bigot and an idiot.

They defend it because it's part of their religion i..e they can either reject it and interpret it as something else or they defend it and Muslims (even in this forum) have been seen to do both.

(August 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm)Pippy Wrote: I repeat, the average Muslim is far batter than the average Christian or Jew, as far as there personal lives. They are nicer, calmer, happier, more restrained. Charming and wonderful people, that (as if I need remind) are built exactly the same as you. We are all human, any evil they are capable of you are capable of.

Yet curiously Muslims are responsible for some of the worst terrorist atrocities in modern history (perhaps THE worst) ... go figure! Personally I think they're all fucking nuts (yes, even nuttier than you Christians)!

(August 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm)Pippy Wrote: I hate to see people who don't know what they're talking about tearing down the largest religion in the world because they watch too much Fox News. Well, tear down the religion, but to call all Muslims pedos, or that one about how there are no moderate Muslims, just one's more patient about the takeover of the world... Do you guys actually believe this drivel?

I do not believe the average Muslim is a paedophile, I believe their mythology engenders it and they are forced to deal with that which leads to some awfully amusing antics on their part.

Kyu

(August 11, 2009 at 5:32 am)northumbrian66 Wrote: "A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister."

The complete Persian text of this saying can be found in "Ayatollah Khomeini in Tahrirolvasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom, 1990"

How sick is this!! and this man is held in awe by millions of muslims. In a sane world he would have been put in jail or a lunatic asylum!! Absolutely cookoo crazy. Fortunately he is dead. Unfortunely millions still follow his teachings. Are they all paedophiles? No wonder the muslim world is full of mindless zombies.

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(August 12, 2009 at 5:31 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:

(August 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm)Pippy Wrote: I really and supremely doubt that child abuse is part of Muslim faith any more (or specifically) than any other faith, or lifestyle group. Catholic priests are known to diddle. In the creepy Talmud there may be reference to molestation. Every modern group seems to hold some sick in the head people. But to say that the Muslims, at least more than the Jews and Catholics, are child rapists by nature, is horrible. It is hard for me to watch that. Go out and meet some people. do some research, don't get your world information from bigots and idiots, or you will be a bigot and an idiot.

They defend it because it's part of their religion i..e they can either reject it and interpret it as something else or they defend it and Muslims (even in this forum) have been seen to do both.

(August 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm)Pippy Wrote: I repeat, the average Muslim is far batter than the average Christian or Jew, as far as there personal lives. They are nicer, calmer, happier, more restrained. Charming and wonderful people, that (as if I need remind) are built exactly the same as you. We are all human, any evil they are capable of you are capable of.

Yet curiously Muslims are responsible for some of the worst terrorist atrocities in modern history (perhaps THE worst) ... go figure! Personally I think they're all fucking nuts (yes, even nuttier than you Christians)!

(August 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm)Pippy Wrote: I hate to see people who don't know what they're talking about tearing down the largest religion in the world because they watch too much Fox News. Well, tear down the religion, but to call all Muslims pedos, or that one about how there are no moderate Muslims, just one's more patient about the takeover of the world... Do you guys actually believe this drivel?

I do not believe the average Muslim is a paedophile, I believe their mythology engenders it and they are forced to deal with that which leads to some awfully amusing antics on their part.

Kyu

this is false.. Imam khomeini does not say this and in islam this is forbildden so get your facts righttt

(August 11, 2009 at 10:56 pm)Dotard Wrote: Is this a discussion on the morality of this practice?

Remember folks, morals are relative.

Too true...

And I miss Dotard

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lele Wrote:this is false.. Imam khomeini does not say this and in islam this is forbildden so get your facts righttt

What is fact but a protrusion of that believed to be true upon others?

How does one back up what is a fact?

I find a gun usually helps. Sometimes a knife is dandy.

@Pippy, long time no see, good to see you around.

(June 2, 2011 at 6:53 am)tackattack Wrote: @Pippy, long time no see, good to see you around.

Dude, this is a necropost. He hasn't been around since he fucking died of stupid. ^_^

lele, you sick necrofuck!! ಠ_ಠ

ich... damn lele.. stop raising the dead, Sae likes that kind of stuff. (shuffles off any participation)

(August 11, 2009 at 7:35 am)Tiberius Wrote: From my experience of Muslims online, I'd say most come across as mindless zombies (not saying they are, just how they come across). They will defend their prophet sleeping with 9 year old girls because it's "puberty", and they completely ignore anything to do with mental trauma or the inability of young girls to successfully have a child.

The 9-year-old girl suffered no mental traumas, as far as I know.

And you sure know that I don't come across a mindless zombie although I do defend the prophet for sleeping with a 9-year-old girl (with no "s" after the word "girl," btw).

(June 2, 2011 at 11:52 am)Rayaan Wrote: The 9-year-old girl suffered no mental traumas, as far as I know.

And how could you know rayaan? If the girl did have mental traumas it's not likely your holy quran would be talking about it. Wouldn't want that would we?

And the girl was most likely illiterate, so it's not like she's going to have a best selling autobiography out about it

(June 2, 2011 at 11:58 am)Napoleon666 Wrote: And how could you know rayaan? If the girl did have mental traumas it's not likely your holy quran would be talking about it. Wouldn't want that would we?

Yes, I can't know that for sure, but there's no evidence for it.

(June 2, 2011 at 11:58 am)Napoleon666 Wrote: And the girl was most likely illiterate, so it's not like she's going to have a best selling autobiography out about it

She doesn't have to be able to write a book. If she did suffer mental traumas, then most likely her family members and others would have reported this by word of mouth, and it may have carried on into the future.