(October 20, 2016 at 11:22 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

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*sigh*

So close to being a human, Drich.  So close...

Unfortunately for you, you never provided sufficient evidence for your bald assertion that the word "rape" is only meaningful or definable in legal context, and in fact, multiple people here demonstrated that assertion to be FALSE.  When you were asked to provide said evidence for your assertion you played dumb and changed the subject. So, your argument that a victim has no "right" to use that word in a private sense if they can't use it in a legal sense is completely without merit.

If you need to blame me for a basic inability to comprehend what we have been discussing then you can do so, but know a legitimate explanation is given. Your comprehension or rather failure of it can not be contributed to me unless you open a dialog about what you do not understand.

It would seem rather than open a dialog you just assume your position is right, because you do not understand your opponent. then you celebrate your own acknowledged ignorance with a victory lap/summation and claiming a general lack of humanity.

Just in case you were indeed looking for truth, let me break it down into smaller pieces so you can identify the various components of my explanation and then raise an objection to the bits they can not comprehend:

1)The word rape How ever you define it legally, is classified as a criminal act in this country. Meaning in order for you to use this word to "empower" victims you must have the full weight the the US legal system supporting you. Otherwise why not use the word forced sex?

2) I defined "criminal act" several times and left links to it's legal definition:
Criminal act is an act committed by a person that violates a law and which is punishable by the government. Criminal acts are offenses against the public which are punishable. It can be any act or omission or possession which poses a threat to the public.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/c/criminal-act/
So the #2 point is so long as a rape is considered a criminal act It gives is an alledged rape victim the empowerment you seek/the full weight of US legal system behind them.

3) IF a rape has occurred outside an SOL (Which is How Some states Identify/Limit the definition of a rape) then it ceases to be prosecutable/becomes not punishable by the government.

4) once the act ceases to be punishable by the government, it ceases to be a criminal act, by the very defination of the word.

5)If the alleged rape is not a criminal act then it no longer provides any legal support from the governement as a prosecutible crime.
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If a Rape is also defined by a SOL, and that SOL has expired, (because again the SOL Limits the definition as to how long an accusation of rape can be considered a Crime.) the word rape by legal defination no longer applies to whatever happened.

6)Conclusion: To use the term rape if it does not meet the parameters set fourth by the legal definition (which includes the SOL) Then it is no different legally speaking than if nothing happened at all.

7)UNDERSTAND This If Nothing Else. You are not arguing with me, You are arguing with how the justice department identifies and prosecutes rape cases. If this were not so, then why won't the state prosecute rape cases outside an SOL?? (not special exceptions where the law allows, but in general when a case does not meet any special requirements)

Also know that the Statue of Limitations has been set in the case of most crime because we are a country where the presumption of innocence is written in to our constitutional rights. there is a bigger picture at play here than just the minority of victims who can't/wont come forward.

So, If siding with popular morality and calling our law enforcement murders and charging people with rape without due process is what you call 'human' I'll pass. i'd much rather be an a 'Merrican!

Quote:Your dead terrorist/combat soldier example is a poor analogy to a rape victim/rapist.  There is no such thing as a justified rape, or a justified sexual assault.  But it's irrelevant anyhow for the reason I just stated in the paragraph above.

But there is such a thing as consensual sex you moron, In that a nut bag can have consensual sex and can/will later claim to be rape because she is jelly or just off her nut. Again you WRONGFULLY ASSume that ALL claims of Rape are indeed rape. You By the simple accusation of rape, in your mind has already convicted (Without due process) the alleged attacker. YOU are the very problem I am warning people about.

Where did you stand when the rolling stone article came out about the gang rape of the girl at some frat party? If there were a linch mob you would be the one lighting torches. That is why you can not see past your auto-indictment of every alleged attacker for the sake of a victim, which is why you could not make the connection between a soldier/cop making a good kill, and someone being accused of rape who had consensual sex at the time.

Thankfully that's what our laws are here for. to do the right thing despite what a mob might think is right..

Quote:I'm not going to be bothered with all the police shooting/rioting crap you blasted me with because it has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about.  Pass.

Actually it does, but if you can only deal with one subject at a time I have no problem force feeding you fact from this one subject.

Quote:Go ahead if you want, and keep telling sexual assault victims they can't have the word "rape" unless the guy goes to jail for it.  Keeping putting agendas before human beings.  Let me know how it works out for you.  "Think, feel, act however you want.  I can only offer a different perspective."

straw man much?

Your twisted version of reality/How people like you twist the facts to fit their narrative is THE EXACT REASON THERE IS AN SOL ON RAPE. In the face of printed truth, you still twist what i have actually said to fit your narrative/what you have told yourself is true. It is evident because you are still trying to milk sympathy by changing what I have said to fit a general consensus that is being used to deny the truth of my words.

Just know that the laws of this country (whether you can wrap your head around them or not) are meant to protect and serve the greater good. and if you can see how you yourself (your thoughts and position) are not in the greater good/being directly served by the law. Know that the fact that you can have this contrast of opinion is indeed being protected by the same laws you can't quit understand or agree with.

I posted laws pertaing to rape, sexual assault, etc, for all 50 states and the territories the US currently owns. Yet you ignored all of that. Keep trying to push your bullshit though. No one is buying whatever crap you're peddling, drippypoo.

People are different, Nymphy. Some in interesting ways, some like drippypoo. If you're still hoping to get him to acknowledge any of his failings you have a lot more faith in him than I do. His existence is not a cause for joy but it is a fact. Some people are schmucks. Just step around them or you'll step in it. There is nothing about this guy that deserves your interest.

(October 21, 2016 at 10:31 am)Drich Wrote: That said, i find it a little alarming that you are willing to try and mislead me with your citation being a man of faith, just to try and prove me wrong... Why sell your integrity so cheaply? or did you just grab the first thing you saw and thought this proved me wrong without vetting anything?

(October 11, 2016 at 2:53 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 11, 2016 at 12:59 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: You cannot possibly be serious.

There could be an unknown number of underlying reasons why someone doesn't report being raped for days, weeks, months or even YEARS. They include:

Threats from their rapist.

Quote:Blackmail.

Quote:Shame and guilt.

Quote:Being completely alone.
PTSD.

Quote:Feelings that no one will believe or understand them.

Quote:Depending on when the rape happened: No DNA evidence.

Quote:The list goes on and on.

Wow.  I thought I would just naturally skim/skip his shit but hard not to react to this.  Not addressed to you, Dipshit.  You aren't worth it.  But just to everyone else, you know people with their humanity intact, what a crass way to respond to a rape victim.
If there is anyone who thought there was a point in appealing to this guys 'better lights', I hope this makes it clear.  He doesn't have any.

He is by far, the biggest shitstain on the underwear of life, I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with.

(October 21, 2016 at 12:44 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: He is by far, the biggest shitstain on the underwear of life, I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with.

What kind of makes it pathetic in a hilarious way is him thinking to preach the good news. Well, if this is supposed to be good, I don't want to hear the bad. As I said repeatedly, I wonder if some atheist organisation has hired him to advertise their cause.

(October 11, 2016 at 4:56 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: I'm sorry folks...that shit hit me more than I thought it would. Other than the mafia game I'm committed to, I think it's just best if I leave for a while.

Generally I can deal with drippys vile ilk, but this time it's just too much for me to deal with.
People know how to reach me if they want.

I'm obviously still catching up.  I hope you've decided you don't have to sacrifice anything on account of anything to do with the biggest shit-stain on these forums.  I also don't think we should send him off with the martyrdom he so desires.  Avert your eyes.  Reading his shit is too much trouble, you know, looking for some sense in the morass of that wall of text.  So not worth the effort.

(October 11, 2016 at 4:59 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(October 11, 2016 at 4:56 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: I'm sorry folks...that shit hit me more than I thought it would. Other than the mafia game I'm committed to, I think it's just best if I leave for a while.

Generally I can deal with drippys vile ilk, but this time it's just too much for me to deal with.
People know how to reach me if they want.

Fuck. I'm sorry this happened, Nymphadora. No one deserves that.

@Drich, happy? Any other advice or 'helpful' judgements you want to dole out, you dumb motherfucker?

Yeah, I don't think drippy trusts God to judge her and us harshly enough in the twilight zone.  He's got to jab his pitch fork in as much as possible in this life too.

(October 11, 2016 at 6:00 pm)Divinity Wrote: You know, I get the feeling that DRich isn't just a rape apologist.  He's probably a rapist too.  Fucker sounds like a complete scumbag.

Yes he seems to come replete with the entire suite of scumbag features.