I'm an atheist but I do support death penalty. In fact I think it should be introduced in my country as well. Only then we can have some order and fair punishment towards the murderous gypsies.

Thing is, even with 4% innocent, without the death penalty they'd still be rotting in prison for life just as innocent and just as screwed. I've obviously never been in the situation but If I was charged innocently and I was given the choice to die or rot for 60 years, I think I'd ask to be put out of my misery immediately.

The entire justice and rehabilitation system is flawed and needs major work. I'm more against that then pro/anti capital punishment.

(October 26, 2016 at 10:17 am)mlmooney89 Wrote: I get why people would find Christians for the death penalty hypocritical but I don't see the "As an atheist, I am opposed to executions for any and all crimes, no matter how grievous," really works. It has nothing to do with not believing in god that led you to be against it. I'm an atheist and I'm for the death penalty completely.

Entirely different discussion why atheists are for or against it. I oftenly stress that I have little in common with many atheists apart from not believing. And that's the crucial point. The one and only instance where not believing really has any kind of significance. We don't have any kind of scripture preaching love and frogiveness. We're also not, as I already said, a group, but individuals with our own personal set of values.

That's why it's apples and oranges if christians support capital punishment or atheists doing it. Christians have a rulebook and some of them are very vocal how much they care about life, forgiveness or that Jesus is love. If you go down that road, you better rise up to your own standards or be called a hypocrite.

Being pro death penalty is basically saying that quenching your thirst for revenge is more important than ensuring that the state doesn't execute an innocent person.

These are just the ones we know we got wrong.

(October 26, 2016 at 11:02 am)abaris Wrote:

(October 26, 2016 at 10:17 am)mlmooney89 Wrote: I get why people would find Christians for the death penalty hypocritical but I don't see the "As an atheist, I am opposed to executions for any and all crimes, no matter how grievous," really works. It has nothing to do with not believing in god that led you to be against it. I'm an atheist and I'm for the death penalty completely.

Entirely different discussion why atheists are for or against it. I oftenly stress that I have little in common with many atheists apart from not believing. And that's the crucial point. The one and only instance where not believing really has any kind of significance. We don't have any kind of scripture preaching love and frogiveness. We're also not, as I already said, a group, but individuals with our own personal set of values.

That's why it's apples and oranges if christians support capital punishment or atheists doing it. Christians have a rulebook and some of them are very vocal how much they care about life, forgiveness or that Jesus is love. If you go down that road, you better rise up to your own standards or be called a hypocrite.

Yes I understand that. Which is why I commented how I did. Because the original "As an atheist" part made it seem like because he is an atheist he is against the death penalty. Due to us all being very different in all other aspects that wording is bad.

Quote:his dad, an FBI agent, turned him in

Do you think the father was right to turn him in? Does that mean his dad didn't love him?

How can any christian support the death penalty, does the bible not say something about "Thou shall NOT kill"??

(October 26, 2016 at 5:30 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: How can any christian support the death penalty, does the bible not say something about "Thou shall NOT kill"??

They created themselves an opening already in the 4th century. For obvious reasons when you want to suck up to the Roman emperor. Before that even military service was despised and sanctioned with excommunication. That got revised also at Nicea, for the same obvious reasons.

(October 26, 2016 at 9:15 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 26, 2016 at 8:18 am)Jehanne Wrote: If you were the one administering it, I think that you would feel differently.  Lethal injection is a slow process, and it takes its toll even on those correctional employees who have to participate in it:




https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/get...th-penalty

And then I'll think about what the person did; like the man who raped and killed a 20 month old baby girl, and then raped and killed her mother.  Everyone was complaining that he 'gasped several times' before dying.  How inhumane!  I just can't see how anyone who commits such atrocities against humanity has any business maintaining a pulse.  I dunno...  I used to be adamantly against capital punishment, but having children has severely, emotionally skewed my perspective on the matter.  Probably to the point that I shouldn't even be weighing in.  

I would say that such an individual was mentally ill.  That is not a choice that rational human beings makes.

Atheist loon here who supports the death penalty.

Of course, I have very strong conditions.

Whereas, it seems, many Christian loons don't...