(October 27, 2016 at 3:18 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(October 27, 2016 at 7:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: It doesn't make any sense to think that everything is related to good or bad luck.

I agree -- Luck has nothing to do with this.  Poverty is all based on the way societies work and how people react to one another, and the causes of someone being born in poverty are related to this and not to anything supernatural.

I am afraid Astreja that your sentence confirm that according to you is all based on good or bad luck.
I could be born in a bad or good situation according to chances and chances equal to good or bad luck.
Your thought just indicate that.  

(October 28, 2016 at 9:48 am)Sal Wrote:

(October 28, 2016 at 9:45 am)Little Rik Wrote: Gee, that is great to find someone who got solid evidence about justice dished out only in courts.  

Could you please send me a copy of this evidence of yours.
Is not that I do not believe you.
Of course I do believe you mate.  

It is only for keeping that on my files just in case someone would object to it.  

Are you serious? Which countries example of a court would you suffice as evidence for it?

You are the one who made a statement Mister and you are the one who should provide evidence that justice is only dished out in courts not as per karma.
Right?  

(October 28, 2016 at 9:56 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 28, 2016 at 9:48 am)Sal Wrote: Are you serious? Which countries example of a court would you suffice as evidence for it?

You are the one who made a statement Mister and you are the one who should provide evidence that justice is only dished out in courts not as per karma.
Right?  

"Only"? That wicked people and trespass going unpunished is ample evidence that karma is bullshit.

What do you think prisons are for? Sure some are innocent, but I'm sure most in there got justice served to them, or are you now gonna claim prisons don't exist?

(October 27, 2016 at 11:10 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(October 13, 2016 at 11:18 am)Divinity Wrote: I don't even see how the fuck that'd work.

What if Hitler was a really great guy in his previous lives?  Does he get off the hook for killing 6 million people?  Or were those 6 million people all bad people in their previous life?  How can you really punish someone for doing something they don't remember doing?  Seems to me like punishment for punishments sake, and not justice at all.  Punishment should teach a lesson, and mystical karma would not be teaching anyone a lesson at all.

Punishment shouldn't teach anything, it is counter-productive, unnecessary, immoral and disruptive of the human psyche. It is nothing else but a way to force people to accept others' authority.

Rehabilitation is best but there are problems with rehabilitation.

1) These days nobody offer rehabilitation.
It would be a political suicide.
The public demand revenge and jails or death sentences just serve that purpose.

2) Even if there would be rehabilitation not many people are prepared of being rehabilitated.

Said this there are laws in the physical dimension that say that every reaction has got to have an equal and opposite reaction.
Karma follow the same logic.
Humans can not change the way these laws works.

Humans can only try their very best to implement rehabilitation whenever and wherever is possible.  

(October 28, 2016 at 10:15 am)Sal Wrote:

(October 28, 2016 at 9:56 am)Little Rik Wrote: You are the one who made a statement Mister and you are the one who should provide evidence that justice is only dished out in courts not as per karma.
Right?  

"Only"? That wicked people and trespass going unpunished is ample evidence that karma is bullshit.

What do you think prisons are for? Sure some are innocent, but I'm sure most in there got justice served to them, or are you now gonna claim prisons don't exist?

Prisons offer some form of burning the bad actions so some people avoid bad karma later on but if the
bad actions are more than the prison time can sort out those bad action then karma will take over.
Some people commit so many crimes that even a life time spent in prison is not enough to pay for
those bad action like in the case of people who torture or killed many people.

So no prisons are not the best solutions.

By the way how on earth do you know that some people get off the hook?

Have you ever asked yourself why some people born in the sewer while other people born in a positive situation?  

(October 28, 2016 at 9:37 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 27, 2016 at 10:52 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Anytime you'd like to stop yammering on with your meaningless garble and put forth some sound logic and evidence for the existence of God, I'm here.  [emoji8]

Oh, that is great to know that you are here in time of need.  

I would have never thought that I could count on your great help.  

Lol, what's the matter Ricky? This isn't fun for you unless you're leading someone down an endless rabbit hole, is it? You're such an obvious troll. I can't believe you've wasted a year of your life here, doing this.

(October 28, 2016 at 10:33 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 28, 2016 at 10:15 am)Sal Wrote: "Only"? That wicked people and trespass going unpunished is ample evidence that karma is bullshit.

What do you think prisons are for? Sure some are innocent, but I'm sure most in there got justice served to them, or are you now gonna claim prisons don't exist?

Prisons offer some form of burning the bad actions so some people avoid bad karma later on but if the
bad actions are more than the prison time can sort out those bad action then karma will take over.
Some people commit so many crimes that even a life time spent in prison is not enough to pay for
those bad action like in the case of people who torture or killed many people.

So no prisons are not the best solutions.

By the way how on earth do you know that some people get off the hook?

Have you ever asked yourself why some people born in the sewer while other people born in a positive situation?  

People are born into different circumstances, because of how their parents/guardians lives are. Ever thought of that? What conditions you are born into is entirely a matter of circumstance.

The rest of your post is idiotic and I cba to respond to it.

(October 28, 2016 at 9:52 am)Little Rik Wrote: I am afraid Astreja that your sentence confirm that according to you is all based on good or bad luck.
I could be born in a bad or good situation according to chances and chances equal to good or bad luck.
Your thought just indicate that.  

*shakes head* Dear, Sweet Uncle Loki -- You really are a mendacious little so-and-so, Rik.  I clearly said that it was not luck and you deliberately misinterpreted My unambiguous words to say the exact opposite.

Now tell us why any of us should believe a single word you have to say on the subject of religion, as you are clearly not capable of honest dialogue regarding non-supernatural things.

(October 28, 2016 at 12:02 pm)Sal Wrote:

(October 28, 2016 at 10:33 am)Little Rik Wrote: Prisons offer some form of burning the bad actions so some people avoid bad karma later on but if the
bad actions are more than the prison time can sort out those bad action then karma will take over.
Some people commit so many crimes that even a life time spent in prison is not enough to pay for
those bad action like in the case of people who torture or killed many people.

So no prisons are not the best solutions.

By the way how on earth do you know that some people get off the hook?

Have you ever asked yourself why some people born in the sewer while other people born in a positive situation?  

People are born into different circumstances, because of how their parents/guardians lives are. Ever thought of that? What conditions you are born into is entirely a matter of circumstance.

The rest of your post is idiotic and I cba to respond to it.

I only hope you are not a detective man.
You would be a total disaster.

A real detective would never come to fast conclusion based on first look first guess.
This also apply to Astreja and most atheists.

You guys have very little imagination and sense of inquisitiveness.
Your wild imagination tell you that is all left to circumstances.
You have no interest of whatsoever to understand what trigger these circumstances.
It is all left to .......who knows.....who cares.

A universe left to who knows.....who cares.
What a disaster guys.  

(October 28, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(October 28, 2016 at 9:52 am)Little Rik Wrote: I am afraid Astreja that your sentence confirm that according to you is all based on good or bad luck.
I could be born in a bad or good situation according to chances and chances equal to good or bad luck.
Your thought just indicate that.  

*shakes head* Dear, Sweet Uncle Loki -- You really are a mendacious little so-and-so, Rik.  I clearly said that it was not luck and you deliberately misinterpreted My unambiguous words to say the exact opposite.

Now tell us why any of us should believe a single word you have to say on the subject of religion, as you are clearly not capable of honest dialogue regarding non-supernatural things.

Let me see if I can open up your closed mental receptors.

You say........... Poverty is all based on the way societies work and how people react to one another, and
the causes of someone being born in poverty are related to this and not to anything supernatural............

By excluding the possibility that people lived in previous lives someone is unlucky enough to be born
in a negative situation and somebody else is lucky to be born in a positive situation.
How would you know whether someone born in a negative situation on the bases that in a previous life he-she failed badly or the opposite in which someone born in a positive situation because he-she did good?

All you do is guessing and guessing is not good enough.