(November 2, 2016 at 9:17 am)goombah111 Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 9:02 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: I've seen pretty much every video on the subject, including that one.

the video just came out today

You're a liar.

What do I believe in that hasn't been proven to exist...?

Everything scientific. Everything that requires inductive reasoning. Everything without a 100% sound tautological premise.

What do I believe in that is without evidence? Nothing that I'm aware of. If I was to discover that I was believing anything without evidence I'd stop believing it. I'd realize that what I had believed was evident either didn't exist or I mistook for something else; so was not actually evident at all. I would realize that I was mistaken about my perceptions.

(November 2, 2016 at 9:02 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: I've seen pretty much every video on the subject, including that one.

There are a few reasons I don't believe what you're babbling on about, but this one's a doozy, I'm sure you've heard of Barry Jennings, I'm pretty sure he's used in your video as an expert....well, here he is, in his own words:

okay theres about 2500 other architects and engineers. does that cherry you picked taste good?

(November 2, 2016 at 9:02 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(October 31, 2016 at 4:13 pm)goombah111 Wrote: [...]you believe blindly. you must be a theist.

You believe some videos on the internet, made by nut-jobs in their mothers' basements. You must be a dipsh*t.

All of this bullsh*t has been thoroughly debunked - by experts. Just google "911 conspiracy theory debunked". But of course, you probably prefer the narrative, where the "goberment" is magical and has total control over everything, all the while being totally transparent to morons, with no qualifications, or intellect to speak of, like yourself. Because the idea, that a bunch of fanatics from the other side of the world can kill you, for no reason, makes you sh*t your pants.

Enjoy living in your grim fantasy-world. And watch out - I might be in on the conspiracy and reporting you to the "powers that be" as we speak. Watch your back - knowledge is dangerous...

yeah...you know every video ever made is on the internet right? they arent all wrong.

made by nutjobs in their mothers basements? try 20 thousand engineers

naturally, i try to prove myself wrong. cause if my argument cant stand up to intense scrutiny then does it really mean anything?
unfortunately it does hold up, all too well.

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(November 2, 2016 at 9:21 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 9:17 am)goombah111 Wrote: the video just came out today

You're a liar.

you got me d:

(November 2, 2016 at 9:23 am)goombah111 Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 9:02 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: I've seen pretty much every video on the subject, including that one.

There are a few reasons I don't believe what you're babbling on about, but this one's a doozy, I'm sure you've heard of Barry Jennings, I'm pretty sure he's used in your video as an expert....well, here he is, in his own words:

okay theres about 2500 other architects and engineers. does that cherry you picked taste good?

(November 2, 2016 at 9:02 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: You believe some videos on the internet, made by nut-jobs in their mothers' basements. You must be a dipsh*t.

All of this bullsh*t has been thoroughly debunked - by experts. Just google "911 conspiracy theory debunked". But of course, you probably prefer the narrative, where the "goberment" is magical and has total control over everything, all the while being totally transparent to morons, with no qualifications, or intellect to speak of, like yourself. Because the idea, that a bunch of fanatics from the other side of the world can kill you, for no reason, makes you sh*t your pants.

Enjoy living in your grim fantasy-world. And watch out - I might be in on the conspiracy and reporting you to the "powers that be" as we speak. Watch your back - knowledge is dangerous...

yeah...you know every video ever made is on the internet right? they arent all wrong.

made by nutjobs in their mothers basements? try 20 thousand engineers

naturally, i try to prove myself wrong. cause if my argument cant stand up to intense scrutiny then does it really mean anything?
unfortunately it does hold up, all too well.

Ok, we've already established that you're a liar, but that's the second lie in 2 posts, outstanding work.

There are 1,500 "architects and engineers."  You see, I HAVE actually seen that video and know who these people are.

For your 1,500, there are probably the same and more who will directly contradict them.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

(November 2, 2016 at 9:28 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Ok, we've already established that you're a liar, but that's the second lie in 2 posts, outstanding work.

There are 1,500 "architects and engineers."  You see, I HAVE actually seen that video and know who these people are.

For your 1,500, there are probably the same and more who will directly contradict them.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

yeah probably. and it was probably muslims. and the evidence is probably wrong. and the earth probably revolves around the sun. and we probably need water to survive.

and no, there are this many. according to them.

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(November 2, 2016 at 9:33 am)goombah111 Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 9:28 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Ok, we've already established that you're a liar, but that's the second lie in 2 posts, outstanding work.

There are 1,500 "architects and engineers."  You see, I HAVE actually seen that video and know who these people are.

For your 1,500, there are probably the same and more who will directly contradict them.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

yeah probably. and it was probably muslims. and the evidence is probably wrong. and the earth probably revolves around the sun. and we probably need water to survive.

and no, there are this many. according to them.

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keep up

Keep up......that video states 1,500.

By the by, you're a liar and don't hold yourself to the same standards you demand of others....... you haven't watched that video have you?

I'm out, debating a 9/11 nutjob is much like debating a creationist.

(November 2, 2016 at 9:23 am)goombah111 Wrote: yeah...you know every video ever made is on the internet right? they arent all wrong.

What does that have to do with anything?

(November 2, 2016 at 9:23 am)goombah111 Wrote: made by nutjobs in their mothers basements? try 20 thousand engineers

Nope. Nut-jobs, making sh*t up.

(November 2, 2016 at 9:23 am)goombah111 Wrote: naturally, i try to prove myself wrong. cause if my argument cant stand up to intense scrutiny then does it really mean anything?
unfortunately it does hold up, all too well.

Bullsh*t. If you had the brain capacity to comprehend how enormous the conspiracy would have to be and how difficult it would be to keep it a secret, you'd realize that - in the absence of any evidence - it's nonsense. As it stands - neither you, nor any other conspiracy dumb-ass has been able to present any evidence. All you have is tall stories, speculations and lots of hipster dipsh*ts furiously circle-jerking online, imagining that they have some kind of privileged knowledge.

LOL... You're going to feel so stupid one day, when you grow and join the real world.

(November 2, 2016 at 9:36 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 9:33 am)goombah111 Wrote: yeah probably. and it was probably muslims. and the evidence is probably wrong. and the earth probably revolves around the sun. and we probably need water to survive.

and no, there are this many. according to them.

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2,706

keep up

Keep up......that video states 1,500.

By the by, you're a liar and don't hold yourself to the same standards you demand of others....... you haven't watched that video have you?

I'm out, debating a 9/11 nutjob is much like debating a creationist.

the videos old, its not like the video came out today. whoever told you it did is an idiot.

how would you know what its like to debate a 9/11 nutjob when you havent even debated?

you really have to care about your country and its people to truly take the free time you have to investigate.

i hope you and others decide to actually put some effort into it one day. for all of our sakes. especially the families of those who lost their lives.

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(November 2, 2016 at 9:38 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 9:23 am)goombah111 Wrote: yeah...you know every video ever made is on the internet right? they arent all wrong.

What does that have to do with anything?

(November 2, 2016 at 9:23 am)goombah111 Wrote: made by nutjobs in their mothers basements? try 20 thousand engineers

Nope. Nut-jobs, making sh*t up.

(November 2, 2016 at 9:23 am)goombah111 Wrote: naturally, i try to prove myself wrong. cause if my argument cant stand up to intense scrutiny then does it really mean anything?
unfortunately it does hold up, all too well.

Bullsh*t. If you had the brain capacity to comprehend how enormous the conspiracy would have to be and how difficult it would be to keep it a secret, you'd realize that - in the absence of any evidence - it's nonsense. As it stands - neither you, nor any other conspiracy dumb-ass has been able to present any evidence. All you have is tall stories, speculations and lots of hipster dipsh*ts furiously circle-jerking online, imagining that they have some kind of privileged knowledge.

LOL... You're going to feel so stupid one day, when you grow and join the real world.

wow...just...wow...amazing. and you make fun of creationists!?

thats hypocritical dont you think? to dismiss evidence and to believe preconceived ideas blindly?

(November 2, 2016 at 9:46 am)goombah111 Wrote: wow...just...wow...amazing. and you make fun of creationists!?

I make fun of idiots. And that's the company you happen to have found yourself in.

(November 2, 2016 at 9:46 am)goombah111 Wrote: thats hypocritical dont you think? to dismiss evidence and to believe preconceived ideas blindly?

You have presented no evidence. Only speculation and conjecture. Just like all the naive nut-jobs. And sane people don't have to argue against nut-jobs, who keep presenting the same horsesh*t, already debunked many times over. Life is too short and there are waaaaay too many idiots on the internet.

Stop strawmanning me, how the fuck would you know who I've debated?

Fact is, I used to be a 9/11 conspiracist, but when I stopped smoking weed and actually started listening to those who were supposed to be covering shit up it became fairly obvious that it's impossible for the conspiracy to be true.

The technical arguments aside, there is no way that this could have been kept secret for this long....... do you know what people are actually like?

Debating a 9/11 conspiracist IS like debating a creationist.

By the by, I love this question in response...and I want you to actually think about it:

If the 9/11 conspiracy were true and the attacks were used as a ploy for the allies to go into Iraq.....why in the name of holy fuck didn't they just plant some WMD's in Iraq?

Think on that.

Edit to add: Don't you fucking dare lecture me on people dying and doing your bit for your country, for a start, I'm British, but more importantly, I served in Afghanistan. Keep you faux patriotic outrage to your fucking self.