(November 2, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Emjay Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 5:11 pm)RozKek Wrote: A supernatural explanation should never come. Just because one doesn't know the answer doesn't mean it was sp00ky Jezuz. 'I don't know' is far better than made up bullshit unless it's a hypothesis that can or will be tested.

Yeah, that too. Sorry I didn't mean to imply that if I don't know, I jump to magic as an answer, cos that's not the case at all. I'm happy not knowing the answer to things, or even knowing that I will never know the answer.

I know you don't, just wanted to add to what you said :p

(November 2, 2016 at 5:59 pm)abaris Wrote: Carmelite home?

Are you aware of the countless stories by nuns jumping 30 feets high to grab a crucifix and things along these lines? All reported by so called neutral witnesses. None of them confirmed by any serious investigation on the matter.

If that was to happen in a controlled environment, I would consider incidences like that. But not coming from sources where the bias already runs in overdrive.

Well, I don't know if you're into scary movies/stories or not. I am though.

Even if this story is made up by the people who claimed to have seen stuff when they really didn't, I still find it super interesting to read about. The case in St Louis from 1949 was even more interesting and even more convincing I think. I get scared sometimes at night from reading so much about this type of stuff but it's worth it lol.

The case in Amityville was supposedly a true story as well but that's one of the many that I don't believe. There need to be enough witnesses and enough unexplainable events documented for me to believe it.

(November 2, 2016 at 5:59 pm)RozKek Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 5:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I've already explained several times why the "natural explanation" doesn't hold any water for me. Sorry you're so upset.

Don't take it personally, I am from time to time grumpy, my apologies, I was immature.

Aww, it's ok! I appreciate it. 

(November 2, 2016 at 6:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well, I don't know if you're into scary movies/stories or not. I am though.

You know how many supposedly real ghost stories I have read. I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff. But the last time I gave them some real consideration was when being a kid. Now I'm in the habit of plucking them apart. I've yet to find any story being in any way convincing. Always eyewitness accounts by people already biased to view things in a certain way, always hearsay, always grainy photographs showing no detail.

I'm still trying to get over the Cat Nuns.

(November 2, 2016 at 6:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It's actually the true story that the movie "the exorcist" was inspired from, but it's a very very different story. The accounts in the book are taken from the diary and documents of a Jesuit priest who was involved with the exorcisms, as well as some interviews to fill in the gaps.  

I know about this book, but I never read it. Jesuit priest being the operative word here. Give me something in a controlled and neutral environment and I will give it some consideration. But certainly not something by someone already having some confirmation bias.

(November 2, 2016 at 7:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I'm still trying to get over the Cat Nuns.

Catholic lady = Cat lady

I'm trying to compare your picture to that one and it just isn't working for me.