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Who is to blame.
#51
RE: Who is to blame.
According to one guy, it's Jon Stewart's fault that the Orange Fucktard won.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/media-cr...ect-trump/


Quote:Media critic: If Jon Stewart hadn’t left the Daily Show we might not be saying ‘President-elect Trump’
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#52
RE: Who is to blame.
OFC it's a socialist jews fault.  When is it not?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#53
RE: Who is to blame.
(November 12, 2016 at 11:11 am)A Theist Wrote: Trump was able to flip rust belt states that hadn't voted Republican since the 1980s. I was just as shocked as everybody else when I saw, first, Wisconsin going to Trump after Florida, North Carolina, and Ohio. Then Pennsylvania, and now, looks like Michigan may just, by the narrowist margin , go for Trump too.

I think the margins are an important part of the story. He won by pretty big margins in Ohio and Wisconsin and he won Florida by something like 150,000 votes. And turnout in some of those battleground states was higher than 2012, sometimes by large amounts. The idea that a low turnout hurts the GOP might still be true in a general sense, but the additional voters who showed up in those states were voting for Trump.

If Michigan goes to Trump, then it was indeed those northern midwest states that did it. Even without Florida, if she carries OH, WI, MI and PA she wins. Not coincidentally those are states where she was seen as indifferent to job losses and the risk of additional losses going forward, whereas Trump is offering the possibility of reversing the job losses and the overall revenue by turning the spigot on for more fossil fuel production.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#54
RE: Who is to blame.
(November 12, 2016 at 1:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Let me just ask, lol, at this point...is anyone else as amused as I am... at how desperate we are to find some bit of the election that's -not- down to plain and base hatred of the other™?

And here I was just reading an article in the Washington Post that is trying to pin down the reasons Clinton lost, and one of them was this:

Quote:One error was to stick with a long-standing, one-dimensional campaign strategy: attacking Donald Trump. That strategy had been devised despite overwhelming evidence, not only in Trump’s rise but also in Clinton’s struggles during the Democratic primary against Bernie Sanders, that the electorate was looking for political and economic change.

This is so bizarre because we know that political and personal attacks are effective in Presidential campaigns. For a recent example, just look to, say... 2016.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#55
RE: Who is to blame.
What can I say, we the people positively reek of collective denial.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#56
RE: Who is to blame.
(November 12, 2016 at 1:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yes,  lower end -whites-, lol.  The two cannot be fully understood without reference to each other.  Yard art types, pink flamingo fetishists, red hatted gnome afficionados.  Wink
(it's the only type of public art they can afford to appreciate, lol)

Let's not forget -these- guys....
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#57
RE: Who is to blame.
Mah peoples!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUyxiI-TY3c

Pay close attention to the message on that flag, now, yall...cause that's what just got elected.  Clap
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#58
RE: Who is to blame.
Yeah, to be honest, every time I saw one of her adds attacking Trump, I was like, why are you giving him free publicity??? Talk about taxing the wealthy, and bringing back jobs, and helping children! duh.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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#59
RE: Who is to blame.
The trumpsters interpret that as follows;

1. Taxing me (they forget that they're dirt poor white trash)
2. Giving jobs to Someone Else™*
3. Related to (2) above, Someone Else's Children™*

-This has been a PSA from Murica.

*blacks, latinos, and other hated minorities

On the subject of (1)...I don't know how they forget that, or how they foget who they are.....I'll let Brother Coe explain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhEHB0a7Uyg

I want to point out here, people, that Brother Coe explains our election in a single lyric...people forgot about poor white trash.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#60
RE: Who is to blame.
(November 12, 2016 at 9:29 am)Bob Kelso Wrote: I'm not sure if anyone has made a thread for this or not but this was a damned brilliant... Well it was an incensed rant but I agree with it wholeheartedly.

https://www.facebook.com/viralthread/vid...190359668/

Thoughts?

Nice to see someone with some sense after what a complete sh*t show these past couple of days have been. I'm not a Trump voter, but all these accusations, insults, etc coming from the Hillary side is really getting old. It's making me just as glad that I didn't vote for her.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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