(November 13, 2016 at 1:16 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

Therefore.....  God exists!

They asked for signs,
the signs were sent
.. then the bull moose mounted them.


Thinking of Leonard Cohen for some reason.

(November 11, 2016 at 11:00 am)Edward John Wrote: Did you know, the attraction system in Men and Women proves that there is a God. This isn't a joke if you think about it. Why is this the way it is? God must have programmed it to be so.  This is in other words The Design Argument.
 
What Key Features attracts Men to Women according to Natural law are these:
·        A Women who is beautiful (General body and beauty)
·        A Women with long hair
·        A Women with Kindness
·        A Women with Smile
·        A Women who is a good listener
·        A Women with a Sense of humour
·        A Women who is Submissive feminine around him
·        A Women with Communication skills
·        A Women with Intelligence/Wisdom
What Key Features attracts Women to Men according to Natural law are these:
·        A Man With a Great Personality
·        A Man Who Exhibits a Relaxed, Masculine Confidence(Not Insecure around her)
·        A Man Who is a good Leader
·        A Man Who is a Bit of a Challenge
·        A Man Who is Comfortable to Treat Women as Equal but not in the same way as a Man e.g respect her, appreciate her intelligence and value her opinions.
·        A Man Who is Supportive
·        A Man Who Allows Her to be a Woman
·        A Man Who Treats His Woman as Special
·        A Man Who is Comfortable Showing Affection and Attention
·        A Man with Ambition
Please Note: Some Men and Women here may disagree on what’s on the list but, it is because they don’t know what they are talking about.
This is Attraction system clearly seems to be designed and not chance, therefore God exists. The God of the bible is the true God, as the Bible is morally perfect, historically accurate and archaeologically.

Uh....no... the men and woman are generally attracted to one another due to evolutionary reasons to keep our species going... nothing more nothing less.

(November 11, 2016 at 11:00 am)Edward John Wrote: Please Note: Some Men and Women here may disagree on what’s on the list but, it is because they don’t know what they are talking about.

Ye olde, "If you disagree with me it's because you are wrong." You're not right in the head, are you?

(November 11, 2016 at 11:00 am)Edward John Wrote: This is Attraction system clearly seems to be designed and not chance, therefore God exists. The God of the bible is the true God, as the Bible is morally perfect, historically accurate and archaeologically.

That something "seems" designed is not evidence in and of itself that it was designed, particularly if there is a naturalistic explanation for the features which appear designed. Example, fairy rings:

Quote:A great deal of folklore surrounds fairy rings. Their names in European languages often allude to supernatural origins; they are known as ronds de sorciers ("sorcerers' rings") in France, and Hexenringe ("witches' rings") in German. In German tradition, fairy rings were thought to mark the site of witches' dancing on Walpurgis Night, and Dutch superstition claimed that the circles show where the Devil set his milk churn. In Tyrol, folklore attributed fairy rings to the fiery tails of flying dragons; once a dragon had created such a circle, nothing but toadstools could grow there for seven years. European superstitions routinely warned against entering a fairy ring. French tradition reported that fairy rings were guarded by giant bug-eyed toads that cursed those who violated the circles. In other parts of Europe, entering a fairy ring would result in the loss of an eye. Fairy rings are associated with diminutive spirits in the Philippines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_ring

Fairy rings were thought to be the result of intentional design, but they are a natural phenomenon.

Example 2, the modern banana:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfucpGCm5hY

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(November 12, 2016 at 6:54 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(November 12, 2016 at 6:37 am)Edward John Wrote: In order to tell you what exactly I mean by absolute truth, You'll have to answer my question.
The question is this I Don’t Know what Absolute Truth means? Pick A or B

A: Absolutely True that I don't know what absolute truth means.

B: Absolutely False that I don't know what absolute truth means.

Pick A or B

Or you could just explain what an absolute truth is.

Is it

A) Reality
B) Absolute knowledge about reality

Pick A or B

(November 12, 2016 at 6:37 am)Edward John Wrote: SO you said Logic does not exist - that it was invented. Now which was it? One interesting thing about denying logic, is that since you DO NOT believe in logic, you actually DO believe in logic, Yes a true non sequitur. If there were not logic, then you could have no problem with that contradiction. Pick A or B.

A: I used logic to conclude that logic does not exist.

B:I came to the conclusion about logic arbitrarily.

Pick A or B

Equivocation on your part again. You are equivocating between logic existing as something that has been discovered and as something that has been invented.

Logic has been invented. If you don't believe me, then what form of logic do you think was discovered? First order predicate logic? Higher logic? Fuzzy logic?

How can I argue that logic does not exist yet also argue that it was invented? You are making a strawman argument.

I argue that logic has been invented and exists as a concept, much in the same way that languages are created and exist.

Wipe out the human species and language disappears. Same with logic.

A Absolute truth is the truth that cannot change no matter what. Example 1+1=2 =Absolutely True 2+2=5 Absolutely False.

1. The Christian worldview states that God is absolute and the standard of truth.
   
2. Therefore, the absolute laws of logic exist because they reflect the nature of an absolute God.
   
3. God did not create the laws of logic.  They were not brought into existence since they reflect God's thinking.  Since God is eternal, the laws of logic are, too.
   
4. Man, being made in God's image, is capable of discovering these laws of logic.  He does not invent them.
   
5. Therefore, the Christian can account for the existence of the laws of logic by acknowledging they originate from God, and that Man is only discovering them.
   
6. Nevertheless, the atheist might say this answer is too simplistic and too convenient.  It might be, but at least the Christian worldview can account for the existence of logic itself.
   

Logic was never invented to say Logic was invented is a joke, Examples of the laws of logic

1. Law of Identity:  Something is what it is.  Something that exists has a specific nature.
   
2. Law of Non-Contradiction:  Something cannot be itself and not itself at the same time, in the same way, and in the same sense.
   
3. Law of Excluded Middle:  a statement is either true or false.  Thus, the statement, "A statement is either true or false," is either true or false. 
   
4. If the atheist states that the laws of logic are conventions (mutually agreed upon conclusions), then the laws of logic are not absolute because they are subject to a "vote."
   
5. The laws of logic are not dependent upon different peoples' minds since people are different.  Therefore, they cannot be based on human thinking since human thinking is often contradictory.
   

I think a woman who shaves her head is sexy. Sinead circa 1990!

Sigourney weaver in aliens. Although the fact that she plays such a strong character is part of the sexy too.

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(November 13, 2016 at 11:19 am)FEdward John Wrote:

(November 12, 2016 at 6:54 am)Mathilda Wrote:
Or you could just explain what an absolute truth is.

Is it

A) Reality
B) Absolute knowledge about reality

Pick A or B



Equivocation on your part again. You are equivocating between logic existing as something that has been discovered and as something that has been invented.

Logic has been invented. If you don't believe me, then what form of logic do you think was discovered? First order predicate logic? Higher logic? Fuzzy logic?

How can I argue that logic does not exist yet also argue that it was invented? You are making a strawman argument.

I argue that logic has been invented and exists as a concept, much in the same way that languages are created and exist.

Wipe out the human species and language disappears. Same with logic.

A Absolute truth is the truth that cannot change no matter what. Example 1+1=2 =Absolutely True 2+2=5 Absolutely False.

1. The Christian worldview states that God is absolute and the standard of truth.
   
2. Therefore, the absolute laws of logic exist because they reflect the nature of an absolute God.
   
3. God did not create the laws of logic.  They were not brought into existence since they reflect God's thinking.  Since God is eternal, the laws of logic are, too.
   
4. Man, being made in God's image, is capable of discovering these laws of logic.  He does not invent them.
   
5. Therefore, the Christian can account for the existence of the laws of logic by acknowledging they originate from God, and that Man is only discovering them.
   
6. Nevertheless, the atheist might say this answer is too simplistic and too convenient.  It might be, but at least the Christian worldview can account for the existence of logic itself.
   

Logic was never invented to say Logic was invented is a joke, Examples of the laws of logic

1. Law of Identity:  Something is what it is.  Something that exists has a specific nature.
   
2. Law of Non-Contradiction:  Something cannot be itself and not itself at the same time, in the same way, and in the same sense.
   
3. Law of Excluded Middle:  a statement is either true or false.  Thus, the statement, "A statement is either true or false," is either true or false. 
   
4. If the atheist states that the laws of logic are conventions (mutually agreed upon conclusions), then the laws of logic are not absolute because they are subject to a "vote."
   
5. The laws of logic are not dependent upon different peoples' minds since people are different.  Therefore, they cannot be based on human thinking since human thinking is often contradictory.
   

You thoroughly suck at this.

(November 11, 2016 at 11:00 am)Edward John Wrote: Please Note: Some Men and Women here may disagree on what’s on the list but, it is because they don’t know what they are talking about.

Please note: Trolling noted.