(March 16, 2015 at 5:37 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: jesus_wept

judgement ; that is. For our actions.

I'm not sure why you're being so vague, would you mind explaining properly?

If its the christian god he only did 1 good thing after that he is a dick all of the bible.
So no would i care if there is a creator or not not really if its the christian god id tell him go to hell.
Either or 99.99 to .01 there is no god.

(March 13, 2015 at 4:58 pm)Lek Wrote: Because I believe the witness of the biblical writers written over the centuries predicting the coming of a messiah. I also believe the new testament writers who claim to have walked with Jesus and testify to his works and that he is the messiah. And every time I try convince myself that there is no God, I walk outside and become more convinced that there is. Obviously, we look at the same evidence and come up with different interpretations.

I'm curious, have you read the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) and compared the verses about the coming of the messiah with the Christian Bible verses?

(March 13, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Lek Wrote: What makes a creator seem probable is the fact that we can't explain a cosmos that always existed.

I forget robs's exact quote but it was something like the following:

Imagining a being who can do impossible things doesn't actually make impossible things possible.

You can pretend the cosmos is "explained" by positing Mind but now you're in the exact same predicament and can say nothing to account for that as you thought needed to be done in the first place. To recognize this would be an important first step in learning how to reason logically.

Ninja'd!
@ Lek.
From the Jewish apologist video on why Jewish reject Jesus as the messiah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSDytNu73Hg

I thought I'd bring this back as it's a question I'm asking all the time of theists and I'm getting no satisfactory answers. Some people will write pages and pages of stuff trying to establish the existence of "God", but can't/won't spare a few words to tell me why I should give the first fuck about any of it.

Why should I care guys? I still haven't heard anything persuasive.

I just read this whole thread again and there's not even a hint of why I should care beyond vague curiosity. Of course I'd be curious if it actually showed up and interacted with me. But if it was doing that, I wouldn't need thousands of people all desparately trying to convince me it exists in the first place.

"Obey or else": When people try to avoid saying that, they don't seem to say anything.

If there is a creator, so what?


So what, SO WHAT! Are you an idiot?  If God exists then you BETTER start doing exactly what he wants or Your going down, to HELL.

If a god exists he might send all theists to hell and all atheists to heaven.

Also, if you think Robvalue is an idiot then you're objectively wrong.

Pobody'Snerfect but he is most definitely not an idiot.

(November 14, 2016 at 8:39 am)Edward John Wrote: If there is a creator, so what?


So what, SO WHAT! Are you an idiot?  If God exists then you BETTER start doing exactly what he wants or Your going down, to HELL.

If I'm really the Goddess that I claim I am, you better do what I want or you're going to hell. It's even worse than the other hell.