so, like this worm hole would let us see Jesus masturbating Judas or something ?

(November 27, 2016 at 11:36 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(November 27, 2016 at 10:22 am)Ignorant Wrote: Yes, I'd love to see the  way things happened, 1st hand.

And in the likely event that they didn't happen as you currently believe what then?

I'd write a really bad book about it.

You're one of my favorite theists here. I like your style, Ignorant.

(November 27, 2016 at 10:22 am)Ignorant Wrote: Yes, I'd love to see the  way things happened, 1st hand.

Where would you even begin to look?

(November 27, 2016 at 2:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(November 27, 2016 at 10:22 am)Ignorant Wrote: Yes, I'd love to see the  way things happened, 1st hand.

Where would you even begin to look?

Excellent question. I'm not sure really. I suppose I'd start with Jesus's arrest, trial, and death, then see what happens to his body over the next couple days. I think those moments, if there is anything to see at all, are the most important of all. What I'd see there would probably determine what else I'd like to see.

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Thanks for the kind words, Ham!

You're welcome.

Of course the reverse question also applies... If you went back and witnessed the events as described, would you believe?

Quote:Excellent question. I'm not sure really. I suppose I'd start with Jesus's arrest, trial, and death, then see what happens to his body over the next couple days.

Not only can jesusists not pinpoint his alleged birth they are equally sucky on the date of death.  I've seen dates everywhere from 29-36 AD.  That's a seven year spread.  You'd think they could nail such an important date down a little closer than that, wouldn't you?

(November 28, 2016 at 12:30 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Excellent question. I'm not sure really. I suppose I'd start with Jesus's arrest, trial, and death, then see what happens to his body over the next couple days.

Not only can jesusists not pinpoint his alleged birth they are equally sucky on the date of death.  I've seen dates everywhere from 29-36 AD.  That's a seven year spread.  You'd think they could nail such an important date down a little closer than that, wouldn't you?

You'd need a skilled linguist (assuming this is even possible) to ascertain what is going on, assuming the wormhole can conduct sound too.

It's my understanding there were numerous sidewalk preachers then as now, would it even be possible to recognize Jesus amidst the others?  Recall, we have no verbatim quotes from Jesus.

All candidates would need to be evaluated, and I'll be damned to imagine what kind of criteria one could come up with to winnow the wheat from the chaff.

If Jesus is a composite character, or echoed ideas voiced by (an)other preacher(s), this endeavor could turn into a cluster fuck.


BTW, for this to work, photons and sound waves will be removed from the timeline anywhere you examining.  You'll be affecting everything that happens subsequently. 

Additionally, if the receiving end of the wormhole is noted, and you're in the vicinity of Jesus when it happens, his followers are going to conflate your interaction with their present as a manifestation of Jesus/God/Holy Spirit.  You'll have a direct impact on subsequent Christian theology.

(November 28, 2016 at 12:12 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Of course the reverse question also applies... If you went back and witnessed the events as described, would you believe?

Sure, I'd believe the events happened, whatever they were.