That being said, even if he was clinically insane, that doesn't validate his actions. I know that if I were one of the kids who he endangered I wouldn't give a shit what was wrong with him, I'd be happy he was gone.

There is a difference between "happy he's gone" and "happy he's no longer a threat".

(November 28, 2016 at 7:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That really makes me angry. Someone comes here as a refugee and we take him in (as we should), but then he turns around and tries to kill our people. I mean, really? What a complete idiot.

Let's not confuse piety with idiocy.

(November 28, 2016 at 8:31 pm)Aegon Wrote: That being said, even if he was clinically insane, that doesn't validate his actions. I know that if I were one of the kids who he endangered I wouldn't give a shit what was wrong with him, I'd be happy he was gone.

True but it a least explains the why

I'm happy he was stopped I'm sad he's dead

I think my coping skills budget for the year was burned off during the Hillary/Trump debacle . . .

expect more in the way of inappropriate/bizarre/surreal canted reactions till 1/1/17

(November 28, 2016 at 8:03 pm)abaris Wrote:

(November 28, 2016 at 7:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That really makes me angry. Someone comes here as a refugee and we take him in (as we should), but then he turns around and tries to kill our people. I mean, really? What a complete idiot.

Why does it make you more angry than the Charleston attacker, who was a homegrown rightwing nutter? As so many before him. Among them the Bundy bunch, who got away with - not actually killing someone - but occupying government facilities while voicing death threats?

It doesn't make me more angry, per se. Innocent lives being taken is horrendous regardless. But yes, it does make me a particular kind of irritated when we take someone in and they turn around and try to kill us.

To use an analogy, it's like... what's worse: Someone breaks into your house and kill your family? Or someone you take into your home to give shelter to turns around and kills your family? 

Both our awful and infuriating, but the latter arouses a particular type of anger.

(November 28, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It doesn't make me more angry, per se. Innocent lives being taken is horrendous regardless. But yes, it does make me a particular kind of irritated when we take someone in and they turn around and try to kill us.

To use an analogy, it's like... what's worse: Someone breaks into your house and kill your family? Or someone you take into your home to give shelter to the turns around and kills your family? 

Both our awful and infuriating, but the latter arouses a particular type of anger.

Your reasoning seems to come from a place of selfishness rather than a place of understanding. And that is sad.

(November 28, 2016 at 8:32 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: There is a difference between "happy he's gone" and "happy he's no longer a threat".

I have very little empathy for somebody willing to do something like this. That might make me insensitive. I don't particularly care.

(November 28, 2016 at 8:03 pm)abaris Wrote:

(November 28, 2016 at 7:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That really makes me angry. Someone comes here as a refugee and we take him in (as we should), but then he turns around and tries to kill our people. I mean, really? What a complete idiot.

Why does it make you more angry than the Charleston attacker, who was a homegrown rightwing nutter? As so many before him. Among them the Bundy bunch, who got away with - not actually killing someone - but occupying government facilities while voicing death threats?

Because this asshat was granted a life in this country that was a million times better than what he had. What does he do with such a gift? He murders people in a terrorist attack.

And I'm considered the misanthrope.