(November 29, 2016 at 5:25 pm)abaris Wrote: As for the OP, I daresay....



I bet he's touching himself over so many people getting all worked up over his shitpost.

Oh probably. I forgot what this thread was about. I think we all had fun in the end one way or another.

(November 29, 2016 at 4:35 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(November 29, 2016 at 1:37 pm)pool the great Wrote: I'm sure there would be lots of areas in life where whites would be more "privileged" than blacks and other areas where blacks would be more "privileged" than whites. It's just nature. We just have to deal with it.

"White privilege" is nonsensical, maybe you mean the "Halo effect" but that's a far cry from "White privilege". If you still insist on the notion I have but one question for you:

Does white privilege apply to blacks that perform plastic surgery to look white?

If you answer yes, you're probably just a racist because of your prejudice.

If you answer no, your premise crumbles down into cheetos.

You don't understand the concept of white privilege. It's not as simple as skin color. We're talking about urban centers made up of minorities who are stuck in a cycle of poverty because the government has systematically targeted them. Nixon's War on Drugs policy was made purposely to put black people in prison, that much isn't up for dispute. His own aide admitted it. And the evidence is staggering: 14 million white people report illicit drug use, compared to 2 million black people, yet black people are sent to prison at 10 times the rate of white people for non-violent drug crimes. White people are also more likely to get lighter sentences for the exact same non-violent crimes. Keeping with the topic of law enforcement, police are more likely to "stop and frisk" minorities, even though white people are more likely to possess contraband. Police are also much more likely to shoot young black men in custody as opposed to young white men...blacks make up 12 percent of the American population, but account for over 30 percent of deaths via police (I know what you're thinking, but over a third of them were not resisting in any way. But even then, white men are less likely to be killed even when resisting.)

The reason white privilege is an important concept under a Trump presidency is because of the surge in hate crimes. It is an observable trend; people think it is okay to discriminate or commit hate crimes now that Donald Trump is going to be POTUS, because of his careless rhetoric. Here's the BBC report that actually just came out discussing the Soutern Povery Law Center's research on the matter. I have minority friends who are afraid for their well-being now, because where they live there is a serious amount of racism that has been masked until now. The fact that white people do not need to worry about this is an example of privilege. 

White privilege doesn't say that white people can't face discrimination or that they can't face certain socio-economic issues that minorities also face. It says that Western civilization has historically and systematically discriminated against minorities, and the effects are still felt today. There is more than what I said, but I don't have time to do all the research for you.

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole system is rigged in favor of white people. You know why? Your whole country is considered a huge business. Everything exists to make profit, Healthcare, education, courts and even the prison system, that's what's bizarre because when you privatize these sectors there's bound to be external interests to keep people in prison, keep people in college in pursuit of Mc Donalds degrees and so on. Soviet union did the opposite and failed, let's see how it works out for you, only time will tell.

The fact of the matter is white people are more likely to produce more money for the economy than Blacks, so of course they will be a protected class up to a certain degree, the same way women are a protected class because they are the major cash spenders, a paper by a Harvard professor says that if the economy had to have a gender it would be female, but that's a topic for another day.

However the problem is that even though "White privilege" as how you explained it should be an attack on the biased system it is used widely and mostly as an attack on White people, that is what I'm against. How I see it "White privilege" is just another left tactic to further divide the people and attract the minority votes. The concept as how you've explained is good but the idea is just generally very poorly executed.

Although when you take a step backwards and get a wider perspective you'll see that it is in part the bias of the system that helps run the system.

(November 29, 2016 at 10:14 pm)pool the great Wrote:

(November 29, 2016 at 4:35 pm)Aegon Wrote: You don't understand the concept of white privilege. It's not as simple as skin color. We're talking about urban centers made up of minorities who are stuck in a cycle of poverty because the government has systematically targeted them. Nixon's War on Drugs policy was made purposely to put black people in prison, that much isn't up for dispute. His own aide admitted it. And the evidence is staggering: 14 million white people report illicit drug use, compared to 2 million black people, yet black people are sent to prison at 10 times the rate of white people for non-violent drug crimes. White people are also more likely to get lighter sentences for the exact same non-violent crimes. Keeping with the topic of law enforcement, police are more likely to "stop and frisk" minorities, even though white people are more likely to possess contraband. Police are also much more likely to shoot young black men in custody as opposed to young white men...blacks make up 12 percent of the American population, but account for over 30 percent of deaths via police (I know what you're thinking, but over a third of them were not resisting in any way. But even then, white men are less likely to be killed even when resisting.)

The reason white privilege is an important concept under a Trump presidency is because of the surge in hate crimes. It is an observable trend; people think it is okay to discriminate or commit hate crimes now that Donald Trump is going to be POTUS, because of his careless rhetoric. Here's the BBC report that actually just came out discussing the Soutern Povery Law Center's research on the matter. I have minority friends who are afraid for their well-being now, because where they live there is a serious amount of racism that has been masked until now. The fact that white people do not need to worry about this is an example of privilege. 

White privilege doesn't say that white people can't face discrimination or that they can't face certain socio-economic issues that minorities also face. It says that Western civilization has historically and systematically discriminated against minorities, and the effects are still felt today. There is more than what I said, but I don't have time to do all the research for you.

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole system is rigged in favor of white people. You know why? Your whole country is considered a huge business. Everything exists to make profit, Healthcare, education, courts and even the prison system, that's what's bizarre because when you privatize these sectors there's bound to be external interests to keep people in prison, keep people in college in pursuit of Mc Donalds degrees and so on. Soviet union did the opposite and failed, let's see how it works out for you, only time will tell.

The fact of the matter is white people are more likely to produce more money for the economy than Blacks, so of course they will be a protected class up to a certain degree, the same way women are a protected class because they are the major cash spenders, a paper by a Harvard professor says that if the economy had to have a gender it would be female, but that's a topic for another day.

However the problem is that even though "White privilege" as how you explained it should be an attack on the biased system it is used widely and mostly as an attack on White people, that is what I'm against. How I see it "White privilege" is just another left tactic to further divide the people and attract the minority votes. The concept as how you've explained is good but the idea is just generally very poorly executed.

Although when you take a step backwards and get a wider perspective you'll see that it is in part the bias of the system that helps run the system.

(Bolden by me)

That's pretty similar to what I said earlier in the thread.