(December 1, 2016 at 11:51 am)Kosh Wrote: People have the freedom to be racist assholes and say whatever they want. They just hate the fact that they get called out on it.

By all means.. Go on Facebook and enjoy your free speech. Just don't be surprised when someone calls a spade a spade.

How can you have a civil and honest discussion if you're threatened with judgment, name calling and consequences the moment an opposing view surfaces?

Sure, you can shut people up with threats but these same people are going to be voting too.

and they lie to pollsters too


(that turned out to be a problem, btw, for anyone who hasn't been paying attention)

(December 1, 2016 at 12:50 pm)pool the great Wrote: How can you have a civil and honest discussion if you're threatened with judgment, name calling and consequences the moment an opposing view surfaces?

Sure, you can shut people up with threats but these same people are going to be voting too.

...for a guy, who based his entire campaign on name-calling and threats. Yeah - that's retarded.

(December 1, 2016 at 12:50 pm)pool the great Wrote:

(December 1, 2016 at 11:51 am)Kosh Wrote: People have the freedom to be racist assholes and say whatever they want. They just hate the fact that they get called out on it.

By all means.. Go on Facebook and enjoy your free speech. Just don't be surprised when someone calls a spade a spade.

How can you have a civil and honest discussion if you're threatened with judgment, name calling and consequences the moment an opposing view surfaces?

Sure, you can shut people up with threats but these same people are going to be voting too.

No you said the key word judgment. I have every right to judge you as I see fit. You say can whatever racist, ableist, sexist, homophobic, rude thing you want. But after you can't cry oppression because I call you an asshole for it. I'm not stopping you from saying it. I'm judging you for saying it. And that's just too damn bad for you. Because guess what? That's all fat crippled niggers like me have. Judgment. And if judgment can affect change in the world. Judge you I shall.

(December 1, 2016 at 12:19 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Can we change alcoholic to over enthusiastic mixologist?

I prefer the term "beer connoisseur", myself.

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(December 1, 2016 at 12:50 pm)pool the great Wrote:

(December 1, 2016 at 11:51 am)Kosh Wrote: People have the freedom to be racist assholes and say whatever they want. They just hate the fact that they get called out on it.

By all means.. Go on Facebook and enjoy your free speech. Just don't be surprised when someone calls a spade a spade.

How can you have a civil and honest discussion if you're threatened with judgment, name calling and consequences the moment an opposing view surfaces?

Sure, you can shut people up with threats but these same people are going to be voting too.

Life's tough ... get a helmet. Everyone judges everyone else every day. Word to the wise: pick your battles.

(December 1, 2016 at 11:51 am)Kosh Wrote: People have the freedom to be racist assholes and say whatever they want.  They just hate the fact that they get called out on it.

By all means..  Go on Facebook and enjoy your free speech.  Just don't be surprised when someone calls a spade a spade.

THIS.

So I'm going say something Tara Jo and you're about to get really upset with me but I notice this happens a lot with the community. I like to call it "label blindness". Everyone wants to have their gender indentity, sexuality, racial label, what the fuck ever respected but then when it comes others asking for that same respect it's always "we have ours now fuck off". Notice how quiet large portions of the queer community have now that marriage equality had passed. They so quick to equate same sex marriage with the civil rights struggle. But you can here the crickets chirp around BML.

I think to a certain extent. People, including a few people on here called racism so much in this campaign that they ended up driving more people to Trump. For example people said that the idea of building a wall at the border was a racist thing. Well polls consistently show around 50 percent of people support the wall. So while calling Trump a racist was supposed to put people off of him, they really just called half of America racist. There are lots of other examples of SJWs and out of step liberals saying that commonly held beliefs were racist or sexist or whatever. Guess what? People don't like being called a racist. So rather than drive people away from Trump I think the racism Tourette's of the Clintons and SJWS just insulted a lot of people.

(December 6, 2016 at 9:16 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I think to a certain extent. People, including a few people on here called racism so much in this campaign that they ended up driving more people to Trump. For example people said that the idea of building a wall at the border was a racist thing. Well polls consistently show around 50 percent of people support the wall. So while calling Trump a racist was supposed to put people off of him, they really just called half of America racist. There are lots of other examples of SJWs and out of step liberals saying that commonly held beliefs were racist or sexist or whatever. Guess what? People don't like being called a racist. So rather than drive people away from Trump I think the racism Tourette's of the Clintons and SJWS just insulted a lot of people.

I'm pretty sure that I haven't said any racist but I always get lumped in with racists, nazis, whateverphobic, etc. anytime I have an opinion that differs from the liberal SJW mindset that the majority have here. It's fucking crazy.

(December 6, 2016 at 9:39 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(December 6, 2016 at 9:16 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I think to a certain extent. People, including a few people on here called racism so much in this campaign that they ended up driving more people to Trump. For example people said that the idea of building a wall at the border was a racist thing. Well polls consistently show around 50 percent of people support the wall. So while calling Trump a racist was supposed to put people off of him, they really just called half of America racist. There are lots of other examples of SJWs and out of step liberals saying that commonly held beliefs were racist or sexist or whatever. Guess what? People don't like being called a racist. So rather than drive people away from Trump I think the racism Tourette's of the Clintons and SJWS just insulted a lot of people.

I'm pretty sure that I haven't said any racist but I always get lumped in with racists, nazis, whateverphobic, etc. anytime I have an opinion that differs from the liberal SJW mindset that the majority have here. It's fucking crazy.

I really think that people just wanted to call trump a racist but they pretty much ended up calling everyone but people who believe exactly what they do a racist. That isn't a good way to win an election