https://psychopathsdemystified.wordpress...sociopath/

Okay, so this isn't news, but he lists some interesting observations to support his assessment.

TBH, if he hasn't met the man, anyone who is willing to make a diagnosis based on observation only is more than suspect.

(December 11, 2016 at 5:20 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: TBH, if he hasn't met the man, anyone who is willing to make a diagnosis based on observation only is more than suspect.

Suppose you see a video of me telling you I'm afraid of horses (I am). As a test, the video crew brings a horse into view and I begin sweating and experiencing shortness of breath. As the horse is led closer, I begin fighting to get away and I eventually faint. Would a diagnosis of equinophobia be 'more than suspect'?

Boru

Sure, but I wouldn't be online making personality disorder diagnoses if I were a licensed psychiatrist.

I don't disagree with the observations, but with Trump I think a lot of what he shows is a tried and true method of exciting his supporters.

(December 11, 2016 at 5:43 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Sure, but I wouldn't be online making personality disorder diagnoses if I were a licensed psychiatrist.

I don't disagree with the observations, but with Trump I think a lot of what he shows is a tried and true method of exciting his supporters.

Which 'tried and true method' could easily be one of the signs of a charismatic psychopath.

I agree that most personality disorders shouldn't be diagnosed online (especially by someone like the author of the linked article, who is a social worker, not a psychiatrist), but disorders like charismatic psychopathy or equinophobia are pretty blatant.

Boru

Is that any different than

I was commenting on Hillary's 'psych profile' during the lead up to the election as to how I saw her through my "12 Steppers" glasses. Hadn't considered the ramifications of that in regards to the concerns noted in this thread above, but I will stand by my comments.

She was repeatedly showing red flags as to the degree she viewed being president as a desirable outcome to the election, and her unwillingness to accommodate even minor changes to how she does things was very concerning, again, as seen thru my 12 Stepper glasses.

Events subsequent to the election haven't changed my view as Hillary certainly hasn't changed either despite what should have been a huge 'reset' event. Something that has changed is how I view Obama and particularly as to how I perceive his view of being president. And that was as unexpected as it was negative. I know what he sees his accomplishment as, and it's surprisingly focused, amazingly focused. I also note he's more than content with it, and I'm coming around (disappointedly though) to his take on it.

(December 11, 2016 at 6:47 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I was commenting on Hillary's 'psych profile' during the lead up to the election  as to how I saw her through my "12 Steppers" glasses.  Hadn't considered the ramifications of that in regards to the concerns noted in this thread above, but I will stand by my comments.

She was repeatedly showing red flags as to the degree she viewed being president as a desirable outcome to the election, and her unwillingness to accommodate even minor changes to how she does things was very concerning, again, as seen thru my 12 Stepper glasses.

Events subsequent to the election haven't changed my view as Hillary certainly hasn't changed either despite what should have been a huge 'reset' event.  Something that has changed is how I view Obama and particularly as to how I perceive his  view of  being president.  And that was as unexpected as it was negative. I know what he sees his accomplishment as, and it's surprisingly focused, amazingly focused.  I also note he's more than content with it, and I'm coming around (disappointedly though) to his take on it.

Gee, I always thought of Hillary as someone who is amenable to change. Remember they got her to change that dowdy looking headband she used to wear.

(December 11, 2016 at 6:47 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I was commenting on Hillary's 'psych profile' during the lead up to the election as to how I saw her through my "12 Steppers" glasses. Hadn't considered the ramifications of that in regards to the concerns noted in this thread above, but I will stand by my comments.

She was repeatedly showing red flags as to the degree she viewed being president as a desirable outcome to the election, and her unwillingness to accommodate even minor changes to how she does things was very concerning, again, as seen thru my 12 Stepper glasses.

Events subsequent to the election haven't changed my view as Hillary certainly hasn't changed either despite what should have been a huge 'reset' event. Something that has changed is how I view Obama and particularly as to how I perceive his view of being president. And that was as unexpected as it was negative. I know what he sees his accomplishment as, and it's surprisingly focused, amazingly focused. I also note he's more than content with it, and I'm coming around (disappointedly though) to his take on it.

Yeah, the more I look at politics, it's become obvious that in order to actually do well in politics, especially in America, one has to be, if not completely, at least potentially sociopathic. In politics, you have to be willing to screw over people for some perceived greater good (whether or not it actually is better is irrelevant; the important thing is it seems good enough to carry out, whether it means Neville Chamberlain screwing over the Czechs so the British Armed Forces can buy some time to rearm for a proper war against Hitler or if it's just Trump trying to make a border wall that would displace people, cost more than any building project in American history, take money from the economy, and actually not keep Mexican criminals from going into America) and sociopaths are certainly good at that.

That said, we do have to be wary about diagnosing people we don't personally know with mental disorders, although even my professors seemed to be willing to do so on occasion.

I apparently do a pretty good simulation of Aspergers when I want to*, at least when sufficiently motivated to be that way be being encircled by a bunch of idiots . . .

(I'm involved in a community project where I have to deal with other folks not smart enough to have figured out how to have avoided some odious public service commitment)


*seriously, it's a defense mechanism, at 12 Steppers I'm regarded as warm and gregarious, I just don't suffer fools gladly)