This really isn't anything new.  Ever since the 80's, the GOP complains about democrats "taxing and spending" whenever they're not in power.  But when they're actually in power, they find some giant boondoggle to spend more money on while cutting taxes.  The result is that they replace "tax and spend" with "credit and spend."  

Then again, Trump could accidentally get Mexico to pay for the wall.  After all, if he fucks things up bad enough in America, they'll want a wall to prevent undocumented American immigrants from crossing the border.

(January 7, 2017 at 12:11 pm)Napoléon Wrote: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/tr...ico-233265

"The dishonest media is not reporting that any money spent, for the sake if [sic] speed, on building the Great Wall, will be paid back by Mexico,” Trump wrote on Twitter Friday morning.

Well, you can't really pay 'back' money unless you borrow in the first place.  I really don't see Mexico lending the US the money to build the wall. Also, if Mexico pays for the wall, doesn't that make it theirs?

As a side note, here's a secret about walls:  they don't work.

Boru

(January 7, 2017 at 1:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, you can't really pay 'back' money unless you borrow in the first place.  I really don't see Mexico lending the US the money to build the wall. Also, if Mexico pays for the wall, doesn't that make it theirs?

As a side note, here's a secret about walls:  they don't work.

What are you on about Mexico lending the US the money?
It's the other way around.The US will pay for it now and they'll get restitution from Mexico later.

Don't see what difference it makes who owns the wall.

And they do generally work a lot better than no wall at all.

(January 7, 2017 at 12:11 pm)Napoléon Wrote: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/tr...ico-233265

"The dishonest media is not reporting that any money spent, for the sake if [sic] speed, on building the Great Wall, will be paid back by Mexico,” Trump wrote on Twitter Friday morning.

Mexico does not appear to share that opinion.

(January 7, 2017 at 2:23 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(January 7, 2017 at 1:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, you can't really pay 'back' money unless you borrow in the first place.  I really don't see Mexico lending the US the money to build the wall.  Also, if Mexico pays for the wall, doesn't that make it theirs?

As a side note, here's a secret about walls:  they don't work.

What are you on about Mexico lending the US the money?
It's the other way around.The US will pay for it now and they'll get restitution from Mexico later.

Don't see what difference it makes who owns the wall.

And they do generally work a lot better than no wall at all.

Or...  We'll spend 20 billion for a wall that keeps nobody out, and not get one single peso later.

We have a winner.

And Drumpf has suckered a whole lot of losers.

(January 7, 2017 at 2:23 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(January 7, 2017 at 1:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, you can't really pay 'back' money unless you borrow in the first place.  I really don't see Mexico lending the US the money to build the wall.  Also, if Mexico pays for the wall, doesn't that make it theirs?

As a side note, here's a secret about walls:  they don't work.

What are you on about Mexico lending the US the money?
It's the other way around.The US will pay for it now and they'll get restitution from Mexico later.

Don't see what difference it makes who owns the wall.

And they do generally work a lot better than no wall at all.

Trump said the US would be 'paid back' by Mexico - money can't be 'paid back' unless it was lent in the first place (that's what 'paid back' means).

Trump - to my knowledge - didn't use the word 'restitution' as you did, but even that's not accurate. 'Restitution' in a financial sense means that you pay someone for injury or loss caused by you. Since Mexican immigration is a net boon to the US economy, stopping it wouldn't be an injury caused by Mexico.

Of course it makes a difference who owns the wall. The owner should be expected to pay for maintaining the wall, manning the wall, tending the wee shrubs and flowers around the wall that give it that quaint and homey appearance, etc. When your neighbour's fence falls down, it is your neighbor who is responsible for the repair, not you.

Funny thing about walls is that they don't work nearly as well as you'd expect. I know this from personal experience.

Boru

Reagan would be pissed at Trump if alive today.

If Ronald Reagan were alive today, he'd be 105 years old. I'm not sure he'd have the wherewithal to pissed at anything but his adult diaper.

Boru

(January 7, 2017 at 1:01 pm)TaraJo Wrote: This really isn't anything new.  Ever since the 80's, the GOP complains about democrats "taxing and spending" whenever they're not in power.  But when they're actually in power, they find some giant boondoggle to spend more money on while cutting taxes.  The result is that they replace "tax and spend" with "credit and spend."  

Then again, Trump could accidentally get Mexico to pay for the wall.  After all, if he fucks things up bad enough in America, they'll want a wall to prevent undocumented American immigrants from crossing the border.

HA HA HA HA and Canada too, but Canada and Mexico would be thinking "Holy shit do we have a turd sandwich between us."

The irony is that out of all the presidents since Reagan, only one ended up with a surplus budget Clinton, and Obama cut the dept the others increased it. 

Yep, it is absolutely astound to me anyone after what Bush did, to vote for Trump KNOWING he ran for the same party that gave us Bush's triple whammy crash and two unfunded wars. 

I wouldn't call it "credit and spend" but tweak that to "Gut taxpayers, credit and spend". 

GOP doesn't care about small government, they want less regulations to make it easier for their corporate overlords to exploit. Where they do care about big government is controlling women's bodies and whom people sleep with and where they  go to th e bathroom. They have been masters at using social issues to distract from tax payers theft.