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What is your specific level of Theism?
January 9, 2017 at 1:20 am
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2017 at 1:53 am by ignoramus.)
I'd like to ask theists the same question.
I'm not making a poll because fuck all poles!
Are you a:
1: piss weak theist? Funerals and weddings and straight to the nearest cafe bar?
2: weak theist? Not sure the whole god thing is really real, but meh, I've doing it my whole life and you know what they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
3: cherry picker extraordinare! I enjoy the churchy life because it allows me to conveniently hide my predudices behind the veil of religion. Plus, I look forward to some cab sav and a cracker every Sunday morning.
4: I'm a believer!: I believe with all my heart that God loves me and will allow me to live on in paradise when he's finished with me here. Life just doesn't end for me! Thank you so much sweet baby Jesus!
5: I'm a Fundy!: I will pass on God's word to everybody I see! Especially those that haven't seen the light!
They're rude sometimes, that's OK because that's the devil making them say that of course! Derrr!
6: Full on Xtard: I speak with God on a regular basis. I sm so blessed! Who would have thought that the creator of the universe would have the time to talk with me? I suppose I'm just special? What's not to love about his beautiful mysteriousness?
7: GC,LR,MK Category: God, I love you so much I am drunk on your beauty and know not what I am saying! Thank you!
8: Exclusive club, platinum membership only: The bible and the Qur'an IS the inerrant word of God and I follow it to the letter.
No cherry picking for me! Cherry pickers are just pretenders! Gotta go, the warden's coming!
9: I am one with God. You poor lost sheep! As soon as they release me from this stupid straight jacket, I will unleash hell on all you infidels! Don't blame me? It's exactly what he wants! I'm just the messenger fool!
I'm effectively a level 1. If that's important to family and friends, I will not disappoint! Plus I love my café latte!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: What is your specific level of Theism?
January 9, 2017 at 2:46 am
(January 9, 2017 at 1:20 am)ignoramus Wrote: I'd like to ask theists the same question.
I'm not making a poll because fuck all poles!
Are you a:
1: piss weak theist? Funerals and weddings and straight to the nearest cafe bar?
2: weak theist? Not sure the whole god thing is really real, but meh, I've doing it my whole life and you know what they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
3: cherry picker extraordinare! I enjoy the churchy life because it allows me to conveniently hide my predudices behind the veil of religion. Plus, I look forward to some cab sav and a cracker every Sunday morning.
4: I'm a believer!: I believe with all my heart that God loves me and will allow me to live on in paradise when he's finished with me here. Life just doesn't end for me! Thank you so much sweet baby Jesus!
5: I'm a Fundy!: I will pass on God's word to everybody I see! Especially those that haven't seen the light!
They're rude sometimes, that's OK because that's the devil making them say that of course! Derrr!
6: Full on Xtard: I speak with God on a regular basis. I sm so blessed! Who would have thought that the creator of the universe would have the time to talk with me? I suppose I'm just special? What's not to love about his beautiful mysteriousness?
7: GC,LR,MK Category: God, I love you so much I am drunk on your beauty and know not what I am saying! Thank you!
8: Exclusive club, platinum membership only: The bible and the Qur'an IS the inerrant word of God and I follow it to the letter.
No cherry picking for me! Cherry pickers are just pretenders! Gotta go, the warden's coming!
9: I am one with God. You poor lost sheep! As soon as they release me from this stupid straight jacket, I will unleash hell on all you infidels! Don't blame me? It's exactly what he wants! I'm just the messenger fool!
I'm effectively a level 1. If that's important to family and friends, I will not disappoint! Plus I love my café latte!
ignoramus,
If number 8 on your list was an actuality, which maybe only .00001 percent of pseudo-christians might follow, then there wouldn't be
enough prisons throughout the world to house these inept pseudo-christian delusional fools because they would have to go upon a killing spree,
just like their Jesus, or their Yahweh/Jesus god. Uh, that is, if they actually read ALL of their primitive Bronze and Iron Age bible. *cough*
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, BUT KILL HIM. Your hand shall be the first raised to SLAY HIM; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall STONE HIM TO DEATH, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)
Religion, the bane of any society throughout history.
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RE: What is your specific level of Theism?
January 9, 2017 at 9:56 am
(January 9, 2017 at 1:20 am)ignoramus Wrote: I'd like to ask theists the same question.
I'm not making a poll because fuck all poles!
Are you a:
1: piss weak theist? Funerals and weddings and straight to the nearest cafe bar?
2: weak theist? Not sure the whole god thing is really real, but meh, I've doing it my whole life and you know what they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
3: cherry picker extraordinare! I enjoy the churchy life because it allows me to conveniently hide my predudices behind the veil of religion. Plus, I look forward to some cab sav and a cracker every Sunday morning.
4: I'm a believer!: I believe with all my heart that God loves me and will allow me to live on in paradise when he's finished with me here. Life just doesn't end for me! Thank you so much sweet baby Jesus!
5: I'm a Fundy!: I will pass on God's word to everybody I see! Especially those that haven't seen the light!
They're rude sometimes, that's OK because that's the devil making them say that of course! Derrr!
6: Full on Xtard: I speak with God on a regular basis. I sm so blessed! Who would have thought that the creator of the universe would have the time to talk with me? I suppose I'm just special? What's not to love about his beautiful mysteriousness?
7: GC,LR,MK Category: God, I love you so much I am drunk on your beauty and know not what I am saying! Thank you!
8: Exclusive club, platinum membership only: The bible and the Qur'an IS the inerrant word of God and I follow it to the letter.
No cherry picking for me! Cherry pickers are just pretenders! Gotta go, the warden's coming!
9: I am one with God. You poor lost sheep! As soon as they release me from this stupid straight jacket, I will unleash hell on all you infidels! Don't blame me? It's exactly what he wants! I'm just the messenger fool!
I'm effectively a level 1. If that's important to family and friends, I will not disappoint! Plus I love my café latte! 10: Just a Servant. One who knows God, accepted the atonement offered by Christ, and has been given tasks to complete.
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RE: What is your specific level of Theism?
January 9, 2017 at 10:42 am
10. I feel confident in my faith, and thus have chosen to live accordingly. I have my reasons for feeling confident in it, but I understand that there is no solid "proof" that can be demonstrated in a lab or tested mathematically, etc. At the end of the day, I can only *hope* that I am right in my conclussions, and i can only continue to have humility and respect towards those who don't agree.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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RE: What is your specific level of Theism?
January 9, 2017 at 1:10 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2017 at 1:31 pm by 21stCenturyIconoclast.)
(January 9, 2017 at 9:56 am)Drich Wrote: (January 9, 2017 at 1:20 am)ignoramus Wrote: I'd like to ask theists the same question.
I'm not making a poll because fuck all poles!
Are you a:
1: piss weak theist? Funerals and weddings and straight to the nearest cafe bar?
2: weak theist? Not sure the whole god thing is really real, but meh, I've doing it my whole life and you know what they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
3: cherry picker extraordinare! I enjoy the churchy life because it allows me to conveniently hide my predudices behind the veil of religion. Plus, I look forward to some cab sav and a cracker every Sunday morning.
4: I'm a believer!: I believe with all my heart that God loves me and will allow me to live on in paradise when he's finished with me here. Life just doesn't end for me! Thank you so much sweet baby Jesus!
5: I'm a Fundy!: I will pass on God's word to everybody I see! Especially those that haven't seen the light!
They're rude sometimes, that's OK because that's the devil making them say that of course! Derrr!
6: Full on Xtard: I speak with God on a regular basis. I sm so blessed! Who would have thought that the creator of the universe would have the time to talk with me? I suppose I'm just special? What's not to love about his beautiful mysteriousness?
7: GC,LR,MK Category: God, I love you so much I am drunk on your beauty and know not what I am saying! Thank you!
8: Exclusive club, platinum membership only: The bible and the Qur'an IS the inerrant word of God and I follow it to the letter.
No cherry picking for me! Cherry pickers are just pretenders! Gotta go, the warden's coming!
9: I am one with God. You poor lost sheep! As soon as they release me from this stupid straight jacket, I will unleash hell on all you infidels! Don't blame me? It's exactly what he wants! I'm just the messenger fool!
I'm effectively a level 1. If that's important to family and friends, I will not disappoint! Plus I love my café latte! 10: Just a Servant. One who knows God, accepted the atonement offered by Christ, and has been given tasks to complete.
Drich,
Which reminds me, since you state with specificity that you "know Yahweh," then when are you going to enter our debate to prove
without any doubt, even beyond "faith," that your BIBLE Jesus actually existed in the first place. Otherwise, your earthly time is
wasted, and it was all for naught?
You definitely don't want to be known in this forum as a "little man," in this respect, do you? Nah, I didn't think so.
WAITING!
m
(January 9, 2017 at 10:42 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: 10. I feel confident in my faith, and thus have chosen to live accordingly. I have my reasons for feeling confident in it, but I understand that there is no solid "proof" that can be demonstrated in a lab or tested mathematically, etc. At the end of the day, I can only *hope* that I am right in my conclussions, and i can only continue to have humility and respect towards those who don't agree.
Hypocritical Catholic Lady,
This is the problem of inept pseudo-christians, they don't put their inept minds in gear before they speak upon their primitive Christianity!
It's oxymoronic for CL to state that she is "confident" in a "faith" that she hopes is true, when as shown ad infinitum, IT IS NOT! GET IT?
CL represents the type of mind set needed to swallow the Christian "faith" at their expense of continually being shown to be a delusional fool.
Even worse, she is a Catholic too boot, which is even more funny and damaging to any society!
Catholic Lady, now, insert a nondescript and an irrelative comment to the topic herein so you can run away and hide from your primitive and embarrassing
belief once again on this line: ___________________________________________ . Thanking you in advance for not letting us down again in this respect.
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RE: What is your specific level of Theism?
January 9, 2017 at 1:47 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2017 at 1:47 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
First, piss-off. ;-) If you wanted a serious discussion you would not have proposed such rude and insulting categories. Nevertheless, you are to be complimented for starting an interesting and original topic. As for me, I have great certainty for the existence of the God of Classical Theism and a lesser degree of certainty for the divinity of Jesus Christ.
The general revelation that comes from Nature clearly supports the proposition that God exists. Modern science has consistently confirmed that human reason can successfully discover laws of nature. If the world is intelligible and human reason effective then the conclusions of Aquina’s 5 Ways inexorably follow. Therefore, modern science unequivocally supports the proposition that God exists.
I have less certainty that the person of Jesus Christ is identical to the God of Classical Theism. The evidence supporting that conclusion comes from special revelation: historical sources, traditional scriptures, testimonials, and personal experience. These types of sources, by their nature, are interpretive and largely subjective but collectively seem to suggest that Christianity is sufficiently true to justify my acceptance of it.
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RE: What is your specific level of Theism?
January 9, 2017 at 2:14 pm
(January 9, 2017 at 1:47 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: First, piss-off. ;-) If you wanted a serious discussion you would not have proposed such rude and insulting categories. Nevertheless, you are to be complimented for starting an interesting and original topic. As for me, I have great certainty for the existence of the God of Classical Theism and a lesser degree of certainty for the divinity of Jesus Christ.
The general revelation that comes from Nature clearly supports the proposition that God exists. Modern science has consistently confirmed that human reason can successfully discover laws of nature. If the world is intelligible and human reason effective then the conclusions of Aquina’s 5 Ways inexorably follow. Therefore, modern science unequivocally supports the proposition that God exists.
I have less certainty that the person of Jesus Christ is identical to the God of Classical Theism. The evidence supporting that conclusion comes from special revelation: historical sources, traditional scriptures, testimonials, and personal experience. These types of sources, by their nature, are interpretive and largely subjective but collectively seem to suggest that Christianity is sufficiently true to justify my acceptance of it.
Neo-Scholastic,
If you're not too embarrassed to tell us, what DIVISION of the primitive faith of Christianity did you swallow? Or, are you a lone wolf of this pagan faith where
you can make up your own acceptances irrelative of the Bronze and Iron Age bible, in why the serial killer Jesus is to be worshipped?
Furthermore, can you tell us in which of the many DIFFERENT JUDEO-Christian bibles you read from, where ironically, they're all correct
even though they contradict each other.
I personally would like to know why you took the delusional route of accepting one of the many primitive sky gods of the Bronze and Iron Age
in the 21st century of logic, reason, and science.
P.S. One cannot help but be insulting to a faith which promotes family division, killing of the innocents, babies smashed against rocks, the
promotion of killing homosexuals, killing women on their wedding night if they are not virgins, and the like. You get it, don't you? Yeah, you do.
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RE: What is your specific level of Theism?
January 9, 2017 at 2:28 pm
(January 9, 2017 at 1:20 am)ignoramus Wrote: I'm not making a poll because fuck all poles!
Oh Iggy, Iggy, Iggy, Iggy, Iggy. Look what you've done now. You've pissed off a pole:
Your actions have consequences. Behave yourself.
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RE: What is your specific level of Theism?
January 9, 2017 at 2:31 pm
I am a level 10 Operating Thetan.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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RE: What is your specific level of Theism?
January 9, 2017 at 3:05 pm
All Cretans may be liars
And all Cretins may be cretins
But all Thetans are certainly good
At altering the settings.
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