Name one moral act that can not be accomplished without religion.

Can't be done. Exactly your point.

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Guilt free masturbation?

(January 10, 2017 at 8:37 am)chimp3 Wrote: Name one moral act that can not be accomplished without religion.

I agree (mostly anyway),   but that isn't what the argument is!

(January 10, 2017 at 8:37 am)chimp3 Wrote: Name one moral act that can not be accomplished without religion.

Honor killings?

The problem is defining what morality means in the first place. Religion muddies the waters by introducing the likes and dislikes of some voyeur.

Certainly religion is not required to be caring towards others, in any shape or form.

(January 10, 2017 at 9:03 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Guilt free masturbation?

you got that backwards lol

Once heard someone say in response to Hitch that he felt praying for his children was a moral action.

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That's the only answer I ever heard

You cannot sacrifice your annoying neighbors - a moral act if ever there was one - to Jesus without religion.

Boru

I think the argument from the other side is more along the lines of, "you can act moral but you can't actually be moral without religion." If you don't believe in God, then the religious will question your motivations, since any proper God-fearing citizen has that to motivate them to do good. Atheists don't have a standard to be judged by. But there's no specific thing you can't do without religion; it's all about intention and motivation.

I disagree with all that, obviously. And I think doing good or just or moral acts for their own merit should hold more water than doing it because you think God wants you to. The latter seems almost selfish to me... only helping others to secure good graces wit the Big Guy.