(January 21, 2017 at 12:38 am)JROHAN Wrote: BULLSHIT!!!

LIST THE THREE MAIN THINGS RICHARD DAWKINS SAYS ARE FACT

THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH

(( I OFFICIALLY CHALLENGE ALL YOU ATHEISTS HERE!! )))

LIST THEM:

1

2

3

YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO SO BECAUSE

YOU DON'T BOTHER TO CRITICALLY THINK

ABOUT ANYTHING RICHARD DAWKINS SAYS!!

WHY? BECAUSE YOU ARE A BUNCH OF

STUPID ASS, BRAINWASHED FUCKING IDIOTS!!

Dawkins is wrong on QM
Dawkins  is wrong on neutral selective pressures
Dawkins is wrong on (just like Sam Harris ) on AI

And I don't give toss if you think these are facts or not really as your notion of facts. facts seem to be whatever gets your theist boner going. As for main what the fuck does that even mean.

And last I checked you have yet to point out anything Dawkins is wrong about  you just asserted that he was

So go pick up your toys it's bed time child

I don't think this person understands how peer review works?

All scientists are sceptics when it comes to the scientific method. Especially of each other!
There's lots of nobels to go around if one's "theory" can be proven wrong...

OP, do you think we just blindly believe like theists are told to?
Have you yourself questioned and analysed the validity of the bible?

I hope you haven't! Otherwise you wouldn't be a good christian!

You're such a hypocrite... You question us to the nth degree, but not your own fucking religious books!

(January 21, 2017 at 1:05 am)ignoramus Wrote: I don't think this person understands how peer review works?

All scientists are sceptics when it comes to the scientific method. Especially of each other!
There's lots of novels to go around if one's "theory" can be proven wrong...

OP, do you think we just blindly believe like theists are told to?
Have you yourself questioned and analysed the validity of the bible?

I hope you haven't! Otherwise you wouldn't be a good christian!

You're such a hypocrite... You question us to the nth degree, but not your own fucking religious books!

That too science is all about skepticism as are the science minded

And I didn't even bring up all the written critiques of dawkins  professional work in peer review or the online critism he has received from people like Jeffery jay lowder about how he gets kalam wrong (not as though it matters as it's a failed argument anyway)

And take your meds

(January 19, 2017 at 12:22 am)JROHAN Wrote: I was inspired to think this up as though the idea came to me from the very cosmos itself

What do you think?

I'm more than willing to change my opinion if any of you can wisely convince me how I am wrong:


It all comes down to taking a proverbial step back and challenging your brainwashing.

If there is no scientific evidence WHATSOEVER that gravity is the result of a

meaningless, random chance occurrence then 

the assumption

IS BASED ON BLIND FAITH, NOT ON SCIENCE!!!

Ok,  I'll bite.

Your argument is a variation on an old mistake and you have phrased it in a near incoherent way. It's a god of the gaps fallacy also called an argument from ignorance. 

In your case, you seem to not comprehend that gravity is caused by mass so you are in fact questioning where mass comes from. i.e. where does the universe come from.
The typical god of the gaps argument goes like this: If you don't know where the universe comes from..then god did it. In your more incoherent version you state... if you don't know where the universe comes from... you are accepting that lack of knowledge on blind faith and not science.

Clearly you don't understand how meaningless it is to state that someone accepting the incompleteness of our scientific knowledge is somehow relying on faith. The two ideas simply don't go together so you took the fallacy of the argument from ignorance and made it even dumber.

Hope that answers your question.

(January 21, 2017 at 1:34 am)Crunchy Wrote:

(January 19, 2017 at 12:22 am)JROHAN Wrote: I was inspired to think this up as though the idea came to me from the very cosmos itself

What do you think?

I'm more than willing to change my opinion if any of you can wisely convince me how I am wrong:


It all comes down to taking a proverbial step back and challenging your brainwashing.

If there is no scientific evidence WHATSOEVER that gravity is the result of a

meaningless, random chance occurrence then 

the assumption

IS BASED ON BLIND FAITH, NOT ON SCIENCE!!!

Ok,  I'll bite.

Your argument is a variation on an old mistake and you have phrased it in a near incoherent way. It's a god of the gaps fallacy also called an argument from ignorance. 

In your case, you seem to not comprehend that gravity is caused by mass so you are in fact questioning where mass comes from. i.e. where does the universe come from.
The typical god of the gaps argument goes like this: If you don't know where the universe comes from..then god did it. In your more incoherent version you state... if you don't know where the universe comes from... you are accepting that lack of knowledge on blind faith and not science.

Clearly you don't understand how meaningless it is to state that someone accepting the incompleteness of our scientific knowledge is somehow relying on faith. The two ideas simply don't go together so you took the fallacy of the argument from ignorance and made it even dumber.

Hope that answers your question.

Well said

JRohan, you're presenting as mentally unstable. I'm not being snarky; I'm dead serious. Please talk to your family doctor and get a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist.

People still use family doctors in this age? Don't you have be a person of wealth to have one those as well?

(January 21, 2017 at 1:41 am)Astreja Wrote: JRohan, you're presenting as mentally unstable.  I'm not being snarky; I'm dead serious.  Please talk to your family doctor and get a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist.

Oh no his insanity is a test

(January 21, 2017 at 1:51 am)Orochi Wrote: Oh no his insanity is a test

For him, or for us? 

I just don't want his tombstone to read something like "Bath salts, 'roids and Answers in Genesis don't mix."

(January 21, 2017 at 2:11 am)Astreja Wrote:

(January 21, 2017 at 1:51 am)Orochi Wrote: Oh no his insanity is a test

For him, or for us? 

I just don't want his tombstone to read something like "Bath salts, 'roids and Answers in Genesis don't mix."

Both

Nor do I he's a nutcase but crazy is hardly a reason to wish him dead