(January 21, 2017 at 3:50 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(January 21, 2017 at 3:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But her kid shouldn't have to suffer the consequences (death) of her being an idiot. A lot of people don't turn out like their parents.

Good thing there's no kid to die yet.

Tell that to the women who have had first trimester miscarriages.

(January 21, 2017 at 3:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(January 21, 2017 at 3:50 pm)Aegon Wrote: Good thing there's no kid to die yet.

Tell that to the women who have had first trimester miscarriages.

That doesn't change my opinion on the matter. I don't see that as a child.

Do we want to get into the heavy abortion discussion like this again, though?

Are you sure that's real??

(January 21, 2017 at 3:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(January 21, 2017 at 3:50 pm)Aegon Wrote: Good thing there's no kid to die yet.

Tell that to the women who have had first trimester miscarriages.

Her feelings change nothing

(January 21, 2017 at 4:00 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Are you sure that's real??

"Threatening" an abortion bc. of Trump? It sure looks like hardcore trolling.

(January 21, 2017 at 3:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(January 21, 2017 at 3:50 pm)Aegon Wrote: Good thing there's no kid to die yet.

Tell that to the women who have had first trimester miscarriages.

Just because we, as women, CAN love a ball of cells like a child, doesn't mean that every woman necessarily does. And, that love doesn't clinically transform a ball of cells into a child. I get where you are coming from, CL. I loved both my little balls of cells; looking at the tiny, 6 week old embryo photos online with hubby and going, "ohhhhh, our little lizard-baby is so cute!" with goo-goo eyes. But our babies were wanted and planned for. I already had that love in me to give before I even conceived, so it was very easy for me to form an emotional attachment to something that really wasn't a person yet. This isn't necessarily the case with every pregnancy, though. The amount of love you feel, or the amount of devastation those women who lose wanted pregnancies in the first trimester feel, doesn't change biology.

That being said, I personally find this woman's reasoning rather silly, to the point that I'm questioning if it's even authentic, lol.

(January 21, 2017 at 3:59 pm)Jesster Wrote:

(January 21, 2017 at 3:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Tell that to the women who have had first trimester miscarriages.

Do we want to get into the heavy abortion discussion like this again, though?

No. But I felt like I had to say something to the person who would say "your kid didn't die" to women like my friend... who had to fetch her 1st trimmester baby out of the toilet where she spent 6 painful hours miscarrying him. "Oh yeah, that's nothing. That's not your kid that just died, that you just fetched out of the toilet so you can properly bury him."

(January 21, 2017 at 4:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(January 21, 2017 at 3:59 pm)Jesster Wrote: Do we want to get into the heavy abortion discussion like this again, though?

No. But I felt like I had to say something to the person who would say "your kid didn't die" to women like my friend... who had to fetch her 1st trimmester baby out of the toilet where she spent 6 painful hours miscarrying him. "Oh yeah, that's nothing. That's not your kid that just died, that you just fetched out of the toilet so you can properly bury him."

I understand how that can be emotionally traumatic. I really do. I'm not going to make jabs at miscarriages, but I'm not going to equate that to the abortion issue, either. You are choosing to have that potential child, and I won't tell you to do otherwise. That's wonderful. I just don't think everyone is ready to turn that clump of cells into a child yet, and I support their decision even when I disagree with their reasoning.

Actually, LFC made her point wonderfully. I couldn't have said it better.

(January 21, 2017 at 4:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(January 21, 2017 at 3:59 pm)Jesster Wrote: Do we want to get into the heavy abortion discussion like this again, though?

No. But I felt like I had to say something to the person who would say "your kid didn't die" to women like my friend... who had to fetch her 1st trimmester baby out of the toilet where she spent 6 painful hours miscarrying him. "Oh yeah, that's nothing. That's not your kid that just died, that you just fetched out of the toilet so you can properly bury him."

And for that poor woman, that WAS her child.  I don't think anyone would be cruel enough to dispute that with her.  That doesn't mean every single 6-week-old pregnancy means the same to other women though.

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(January 21, 2017 at 4:23 pm)Jesster Wrote:

(January 21, 2017 at 4:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No. But I felt like I had to say something to the person who would say "your kid didn't die" to women like my friend... who had to fetch her 1st trimmester baby out of the toilet where she spent 6 painful hours miscarrying him. "Oh yeah, that's nothing. That's not your kid that just died, that you just fetched out of the toilet so you can properly bury him."

I understand how that can be emotionally traumatic. I really do. I'm not going to make jabs at miscarriages, but I'm not going to equate that to the abortion issue, either. You are choosing to have that potential child, and I won't tell you to do otherwise. That's wonderful. I just don't think everyone is ready to turn that clump of cells into a child yet, and I support their decision even when I disagree with their reasoning.

Actually, LFC made her point wonderfully. I couldn't have said it better.

Aww, spanks, jesster!  

(January 21, 2017 at 1:13 pm)pool the great Wrote:

I can only hope that any woman, that feels passionate about you, to reconsider. You are the kind of guy that wants to fuck and bear 0 responsability.

I highly doubt this post is real and if it is, not what I stand for.

Don't ever come 2oo yards from my person. To avoid legal prosecution on me, boy,