This is a man who apparently used to be an atheist, but then during his NDE he was tortured in hell until he called out to Jesus. He was a former arts prof so in his NDE he saw 80 new primary colours, and he was able to predict world events in the future. He became a priest afterwards. What do you guys think, assuming he was not lying about his experience?

Delusion.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

You'll summons it!!! ?

What is it with that Howard Storm that it's worth a second helping. We had that before and I only remember because I always read it as Howard Stern. I don't know any Howard Storm and frankly, I don't give a fuck what he thinks.

I believe is about as much as I believe alien abductees. Sure, they could be telling the truth about what they think they experienced. That doesn't mean it actually happened the way they think it did, though.

My previous answer to you on Islam and NDEs covers this topic as well. I don't believe Howard Storm's "experience" represents an existing reality. It was nothing but a dream dregded up by his brain during the time he was out. (And it's worth noting that his brain was never in danger of lacking the things it needed to function normally. [see below])

Wikipedia Wrote:In June 1985, Storm took a group of his students on a field trip to Europe. After returning to his Paris hotel room with his wife around 11:00 a.m. from a morning excursion, he had a sudden onset of severe abdominal pain. He was evaluated at a Paris hospital and diagnosed with a duodenal perforation, which required surgery. The soonest a surgeon could perform this procedure was around 9:00 p.m. that day. As he lay waiting for surgery, he believed he was going to die due to the severity of his pain and so mentally prepared himself for death. After saying goodbye to his wife, he eventually passed out.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-47325-p...pid1492901

(January 24, 2017 at 8:58 pm)Jesster Wrote: I believe is about as much as I believe alien abductees. Sure, they could be telling the truth about what they think they experienced. That doesn't mean it actually happened the way they think it did, though.

But those alien abductees have enlarged sphincters to prove it?!

(January 24, 2017 at 9:04 pm)ignoramus Wrote:

(January 24, 2017 at 8:58 pm)Jesster Wrote: I believe is about as much as I believe alien abductees. Sure, they could be telling the truth about what they think they experienced. That doesn't mean it actually happened the way they think it did, though.

But those alien abductees have enlarged sphincters to prove it?!

That is impressive evidence. It's very difficult to enlarge your sphincter to the size of your own head. Only aliens could have accomplished that.

80 new primary colors? Show me.

There will inevitably be a catch of some sort.

(January 24, 2017 at 9:04 pm)ignoramus Wrote:

(January 24, 2017 at 8:58 pm)Jesster Wrote: I believe is about as much as I believe alien abductees. Sure, they could be telling the truth about what they think they experienced. That doesn't mean it actually happened the way they think it did, though.

But those alien abductees have enlarged sphincters to prove it?!

You're mistaking alien abductees with pretty boys in prison and choirboys...