(January 24, 2017 at 2:19 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

(January 23, 2017 at 7:31 am)chimp3 Wrote: I am wondering if there was another way around the protestors but Dave used force because he is a violent man ?

Unless I'm missing something from the video, "Dave" is trying to go from the left side of the camera to the right. He basically pushes through some people; we have no context of whether these people were actively trying to stop him, whether "Dave" asked them to step aside so he could get through, or whether "Dave" just decided to push through rudely. So let's give "Dave" the benefit of the doubt and say that these protesters were being assholes and blocking him.

What "Dave" does next is inexcusable. He's already got through to where he wants to go, but instead of just going where he was going, he turns back and starts trying to pull people backwards, against their will. That's assault by the way.

Whatever spin one puts on this, "Dave" is a bad guy at the end, and depending on the context of the initial 3 seconds of the video, so are some of the protesters. "Dave" is not a hero. "Dave" should not be on t-shirts.

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That's not what I saw. I see him trying to pull his family/friends (guess) through the blockade who were still being restrained against their will. The people he pulled through calmly walk in with him. 

Does it come down to who's will was compromised first?

(January 24, 2017 at 12:17 am)scoobysnack Wrote: No he's just not a beta male like most male leftist cucks 

If only people realized how fucking stupid they sound when they say shit like this.

(January 24, 2017 at 6:03 am)A Theist Wrote:

(January 23, 2017 at 10:04 pm)Orochi Wrote: Oh no you pointed out  my spelling mistakes. Oh I'm devastated my points about Dave are clearly debunked because I make spelling errors. I also make grammar mistakes. My point is clearly debunked    

As for Bob I said I wanna be like Bob. Not that I was like Bob in every regard. As Bob doesn't make my spelling mistakes. Just as Christians wanna be like Christ but that doesn't mean you can walk on water nor are most Christians carpenters. I stand for Bobs ideals but may not have his capacities.

So Once again your witless attempts fail A Douche Bag now go play some trump speeches with a bottle of lube

Oh noes I mey have made somme spelleing mestakes I guss this statmant is envalid

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You were never on the light side to begin with

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Oh and so some other wing nut doesn't get his panties in a bunch about me using a meme. It's just reinforcing  the Writing I put above. And it really is just for humor not what I'm using to make my point.

Oh and by all means call me whatever communist despot you like A I don't care really.

That would be, Bob's. Not, Bobs. Boob.

See above but just incase you missed it


Oh noes I mey have made somme spelleing mestakes I guss this statmant is envalid

All thet need's to ba sad rally

(January 24, 2017 at 2:19 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

(January 23, 2017 at 7:31 am)chimp3 Wrote: I am wondering if there was another way around the protestors but Dave used force because he is a violent man ?

Unless I'm missing something from the video, "Dave" is trying to go from the left side of the camera to the right. He basically pushes through some people; we have no context of whether these people were actively trying to stop him, whether "Dave" asked them to step aside so he could get through, or whether "Dave" just decided to push through rudely. So let's give "Dave" the benefit of the doubt and say that these protesters were being assholes and blocking him.

What "Dave" does next is inexcusable. He's already got through to where he wants to go, but instead of just going where he was going, he turns back and starts trying to pull people backwards, against their will. That's assault by the way.

Whatever spin one puts on this, "Dave" is a bad guy at the end, and depending on the context of the initial 3 seconds of the video, so are some of the protesters. "Dave" is not a hero. "Dave" should not be on t-shirts.

Possibly heresay , I had heard accounts that protestors in general were leaving alternative routes open.

(January 24, 2017 at 2:42 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

(January 24, 2017 at 2:23 pm)Crunchy Wrote: The protesters were the ones who got physical when they closed ranks to physically stop a person from getting where he had every legal right to go. The truth is the protesters are the bullies in this situation. I do not give them the right to bully just because I agree with their protest and neither should anyone. Where is the moral consistency?

Personally I would absolutely enforce my rights against those who try to bully me like these protesters were doing. Dave handled it well as no one got hurt and he got to go where he wanted to by pushing through a crowd intent on bullying him.

It was an anti liberal tactic that they were engaging in and if the tables were reversed every liberal here would be arguing from the exact opposite side. 
I just finished pointing out to a conservative how they were acting like hypocrites when they complain about Trump being compared to Hitler. Believe me, both sides act like hypocrites every day and when you are truly independent of these ideologies the clear cut hypocrisy is never ending.

Quote:Watch the video again. Dave pushes through the protesters (ok, fine if they are blocking him) but then turns back and decides to be the aggressor and pull people around, which is assault. Dave didn't handle it well at all. Handling it well would have been pushing through and continuing to walk to where he was going, not turn around and assault the people who did him wrong.

Ok, I watched the video again and Dave turns back to help what looks like his family to get through as well. He does not turn around and assault anyone for no reason, he helps the smaller people in his group deal with bullies.
Can you explain why the bullies were detaining those other people against their will?

Yup, I just rewatched and I was mistaken, the people he pulls through seem to be with him, and walk off with him at the end. I thought I'd seen him pull a protester who then went back to the left side but must have confused that with the general bustling around.

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Aw man those assholes

Which assholes are to referring to? It says the user removed it.

(January 25, 2017 at 3:05 am)Tiberius Wrote: Yup, I just rewatched and I was mistaken, the people he pulls through seem to be with him, and walk off with him at the end. I thought I'd seen him pull a protester who then went back to the left side but must have confused that with the general bustling around.

Much respect.