(January 30, 2017 at 4:09 am)Gestas Wrote:

(January 30, 2017 at 4:02 am)pocaracas Wrote: Look back, pay attention.
The new person was around yesterday...

Well, either way, you don't know what you're talking about and you're just as stupid as the previous posters. For example, you wrote, 

"Produce' denotes a measure of time, so you're assuming time in timelessness... Which can't work."

That's the point, dumbass. Seriously?

If that's how it's going to be, then... the pigeon analogy that someone made earlier is an apt one.

(January 30, 2017 at 4:09 am)Gestas Wrote: Did you not read the part where I wrote that I don't know how that'd work and that I'm all ears if somebody could explain it to me? But your response implies that I said the opposite: that I think it makes sense for a possible world containing no natural world (and no time) to produce a natural world, despite the fact that I explicitly said that doesn't make sense. In fact, that's part of my argument. It's because that doesn't make sense that I think we live in a possible world where that didn't happen.

Let's try again... once more... now with me on a full keyboard, not that clumsy phone one...

So... if we, in our limited reasoning capabilities, cannot think of even a hypothetical scenario for that, does it automatically mean that it's impossible?

My response implies that you cannot grasp the implications of your inability to think about it. Not all that gibberish that you think you understood.
But first I had to make the groundwork and make you understand how our words and the concepts they convey and the way we think with those concepts are manifestly insufficient to describe the scenario you wish to portray.

But you do wish to portray that scenario of timelessness and then apply conventional concepts to it, when that makes no sense. If none of us can even conceptualize it, how can anyone provide a mechanism that brings about our space-time based Universe from such a setup?

I'm curious why you keep talking about a "natural world". Is there anything else?
If there is anything beyond our Universe, is it also not natural?

(January 30, 2017 at 4:09 am)Gestas Wrote: And your entire response is like this, filled with misconstruals and irrationality. It's like watching a bird repeatedly fly into a sliding glass door. Fuck.

Have any of you graduated high school? I mean what the fuck is going on, lol? Do you guys just hang around on this forum all day sniffing each other's farts?

RRRRiiiight....

G girl, your combination of ego and insecurity is fascinating.

In a moment there a claim of a 13 y o girl. In another moment, this character asks others if they even finished highschool. There isn't much coherence on this one.

(January 30, 2017 at 6:45 am)LastPoet Wrote: In a moment there a claim of a 13 y o girl. In another moment, this character asks others if they even finished highschool. There isn't much coherence on this one.

You clearly haven't read through the shoutbox archives then.

(January 30, 2017 at 6:55 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(January 30, 2017 at 6:45 am)LastPoet Wrote: In a moment there a claim of a 13 y o girl. In another moment, this character asks others if they even finished highschool. There isn't much coherence on this one.

You clearly haven't read through the shoutbox archives then.

Hmmm? To be honest the shoutbox is one of the places I rarely look here. I'll check it out.

(January 30, 2017 at 7:06 am)LastPoet Wrote: Hmmm? To be honest the shoutbox is one of the places I rarely look here. I'll check it out.

Ah alright, It goes on for about 3 or 4 pages.

Saw it. Tic Tac.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Obviously.

Albeit, obvious.