(January 30, 2017 at 4:17 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Well the dead will get to go to paradise so it must be good.

"Narrated Abu Dhar: Allah's Apostle said, "Someone came to me from my Lord and gave me the news (or good tidings) that if any of my followers dies worshipping none (in any way) along with Allah, he will enter Paradise." I asked, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft?" He replied, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft."  (Book #23, Hadith #329)"  Bukhari hadith.

Good grief is your blood made of liquid nitrogen

You just keep finding ways to out-cunt yourself, Wyrd.

Wyrd is weird.

(January 30, 2017 at 6:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Wyrd is weird.

You keep saying that. Is that CL-speak for "asshole"?

(January 30, 2017 at 5:43 pm)Iroscato Wrote: You just keep finding ways to out-cunt yourself, Wyrd.

I don't understand your hostile attitude.

The passage I cited should provide comfort because it's part of the Islamic belief system.  It plainly says that  people who die while worshiping Allah will go to paradise regardless of their sins.  So, why aren't you happy about people going to paradise instead of hell?  

It's like the passage in the Bible in Revelation 6:9-11 (CEV) that says:  "9 When the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of everyone who had been killed for speaking God’s message and telling about their faith. 10 They shouted, “Master, you are holy and faithful! How long will it be before you judge and punish the people of this earth who killed us?”

11 Then each of those who had been killed was given a white robe and told to rest for a little while. They had to wait until the complete number of the Lord’s other servants and followers would be killed."

Who doesn't want to go to paradise or heaven?  Everyone who believes in them certainly do.  Well, it seems that Allah (or God) has placed a bonus prize in the sack.  You get in if you are killed while worshiping him regardless of your sins.  But the kicker is that you must be killed.  

So all believers should be joyful when such events happen to their fellow believers.  They are going to paradise or heaven while we, the still living, face an uncertain future that might have us roasting in the lake of fire for all eternity.  

To us, non-believers, such incidents are tragic and should be avoided at all costs.  Of course I, as a non-believer, find such events reprehensible.  But Allah (and God) have insisted that believers get killed.  In the case of the Bible the magic number hasn't been reached in 2,000 years.  Who knows how many more will have to be killed before Jesus returns?  The next victim might be that magic one.  Or it might take 10 billion or 500 billion more.  That's why believers must have faith.  I know that if I was a believer and someone started shooting at me in church or a mosque I would gladly and fearlessly take his bullets because according to the story my soul will join all of the others under the altar in their white robes (or in paradise).

Doesn't any of that give you comfort?

(January 30, 2017 at 6:07 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(January 30, 2017 at 6:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Wyrd is weird.

You keep saying that. Is that CL-speak for "asshole"?

He's just a very strange individual. And "wyrd" looks and sounds like "weird". So that's the response he gets lol.

"Weird" is to Woggie as "unhealthy" is to arsenic.

(January 30, 2017 at 9:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(January 30, 2017 at 6:07 pm)Aegon Wrote: You keep saying that. Is that CL-speak for "asshole"?

He's just a very strange individual. And "wyrd" looks and sounds like "weird". So that's the response he gets lol.

That's because the english word "weird" derives directly from the old saxon word "wyrd". Though, due to linguistic drift "weird" has a much different meaning to "wyrd", which roughly translates to ones fate in a deterministic sense.

Is he quoting from revelation? Lol.

Fun fact, in the new testament I got for my first communion, that part is not called Revelação in portuguese as would translate directly. Its called Apocalipse. What is the english translation of that?