http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/o...spartanntp

So apparently trumps not to concerned with the murder of journalists .What was that about freedom of speech again ?

But we all know how this threads going to go most of us will rightly criticize him. Some will desperately excuse him or scream that it's" fake news ". Trump can do no wrong.

(February 5, 2017 at 12:37 am)Orochi Wrote: http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/o...spartanntp

So apparently trumps not to concerned with the murder of journalists .What was that about freedom of speech again ?

But we all know how this threads going to go most of us will rightly criticize him. Some will desperately excuse him or scream that it's" fake news ". Trump can do no wrong.

Neither is the democratic party either last time i checked with the Obama and possible Hillary administration.

(February 5, 2017 at 11:13 am)dyresand Wrote:

(February 5, 2017 at 12:37 am)Orochi Wrote: http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/o...spartanntp

So apparently trumps not to concerned with the murder of journalists .What was that about freedom of speech again ?

But we all know how this threads going to go most of us will rightly criticize him. Some will desperately excuse him or scream that it's" fake news ". Trump can do no wrong.

Neither is the democratic party either last time i checked with the Obama and possible Hillary administration.

While you could argue this neither of them is currently president

Should look at the article...

This has to do with what Trump said concerning Putin on O'reilly. This morning I've read a lot responses from people leaning right who are critical about what he said, which is good. Trump should be judged just as Obama or any other president should. If you lost your mind when Obama had good things to say about Castro, but not about Trump on Putin, then there's something wrong with how you think.

(February 5, 2017 at 11:59 am)Assimilate Wrote: Should look at the article...

This has to do with what Trump said concerning Putin on O'reilly. This morning I've read a lot responses from people leaning right who are critical about what he said, which is good. Trump should be judged just as Obama or any other president should. If you lost your mind when Obama had good things to say about Castro, but not about Trump on Putin, then there's something wrong with how you think.

1) I meant people on this forum who no matter what defend all of trumps decision even thou the flaws in them are pointed out . I never said the right in general.

2) As I said Obama is not currently the president . And all this week trump supporters on this forum have been griping about freedom of speech. While praising a guy who deflects serious question about  having a relationship with Putin a man who murders his opposition  by saying" while we kill people too" as if that's a justification. As for Castro and Obama yes it wasn't a great idea to that cushy with Castro. But I'll   point out there is vast difference between opening up trade with a country that at current time is no serious threat to the world and at least is showing a desire for change. And resurgent Russia with serious expansionist ambitions and no real interest in change. And has both the ability and desire to manipulate foreign media to it's advantage.

(February 5, 2017 at 2:08 pm)Orochi Wrote:

(February 5, 2017 at 11:59 am)Assimilate Wrote: Should look at the article...

This has to do with what Trump said concerning Putin on O'reilly. This morning I've read a lot responses from people leaning right who are critical about what he said, which is good. Trump should be judged just as Obama or any other president should. If you lost your mind when Obama had good things to say about Castro, but not about Trump on Putin, then there's something wrong with how you think.

1) I meant people on this forum who no matter what defend all of trumps decision even thou the flaws in them are pointed out . I never said the right in general.

2) As I said Obama is not currently the president . And all this week trump supporters on this forum have been griping about freedom of speech. While praising a guy who deflects serious question about  having a relationship  with Putin a man who murders his opposition  by saying" while we kill people too" as if that's a justification. As for Castro and Obama yes it wasn't a great idea to that cushy with Castro. But I'll   point out there is vast difference between opening up trade with a country that at current time is no serious threat to the world and at least is showing a desire for change. And resurgent Russia with serious expansionist ambitions and no real interest in change. And  has both the ability and desire to manipulate foreign media to it's advantage.

Relax, my post wasn't directed at you.

(February 5, 2017 at 2:55 pm)Assimilate Wrote:

(February 5, 2017 at 2:08 pm)Orochi Wrote: 1) I meant people on this forum who no matter what defend all of trumps decision even thou the flaws in them are pointed out . I never said the right in general.

2) As I said Obama is not currently the president . And all this week trump supporters on this forum have been griping about freedom of speech. While praising a guy who deflects serious question about  having a relationship  with Putin a man who murders his opposition  by saying" while we kill people too" as if that's a justification. As for Castro and Obama yes it wasn't a great idea to that cushy with Castro. But I'll   point out there is vast difference between opening up trade with a country that at current time is no serious threat to the world and at least is showing a desire for change. And resurgent Russia with serious expansionist ambitions and no real interest in change. And  has both the ability and desire to manipulate foreign media to it's advantage.

Relax, my post wasn't directed at you.

Okay just thought id clarify my point

Sorry if it came off as hostile

Donald Trump has legitimate flaws... but the boy cried wolf more than one too many times this election cycle. The boy has damaged his reputation so bad, that people begin to instinctively defend Trump when the boy speaks.

Not going to be pretty if Trump actually does something disturbing... because the media has been absolutely fixated on twisting all of the good things he's done to be terrible: when he does something genuinely terrible, it'll be approximated with the rest of the exaggerations, misconstructions, and outright fabrications.

I really can't say anything good about Castro, though. How many people do you have to kill and rape to get a bad rap by the media these days... Bill Clinton is the Golden Boy of Feminism and Donald Trump is the worstest of the worst (word) rapist the world has every seen.

I've spent months watching terrible allegations toward Trump suddenly vanish when they were no longer politically expedient... I've seen the media and political establishment flip their positions over and over and over all contrarian like...

I don't think the mainstream media can be trusted or respected in Current Year.... new blood, absolute restructures... a media not colluding with political figures... It might be too late for the media: they're doubling down, not restructuring. Luckily, we can hear directly from our president, and don't need legacy media in its current form to parse for us what trump 'really means!', because we can read what he really means all on our own.

(February 6, 2017 at 11:21 am)Violet Wrote: [...] Luckily, we can hear directly from our president, and don't need legacy media in its current form to parse for us what trump 'really means!', because we can read what he really means all on our own.

Yeah... And you still can't see that he's a raging lunatic, an irredeemable moron, a pathological liar and an unapologetic c*nt? Well, then - all the media in the world can't help you... The man has been damning himself with his own words for decades now. The media only gave him a platform.

Of course media's going to be against the game show host, who became president through populism. That's because most journalists had to go to school. And simple people prefer to listen to Trump, because he appeals to their fear using vocabulary of a 6-year-old stroke victim...

It's Fake News!

There. It's over. My anxiety level is waning. Screwing with my OCD is not funny.