(February 8, 2017 at 9:50 pm)Regina Wrote: I'm just wondering, genuine question I'm not "judging" anyone I'm just curious to know, have there been many studies done on the effects hormone blockers might have on brain development at puberty?  

I'm sure the gender therapy doctors know more than all of us, but I just can't imagine it's that healthy and harmless, considering the stuff your head goes through as a teenager already without hormones.

I suppose time will tell as the first kids to try it get older.

Yup there has been some . Can't say them off the top of my head (was for a case  2 years ago ) .But as far as I know side effect are rare. And nothing I know of that isn't reversible when you stop taking them .Teenage brains are pretty resilient.

(February 8, 2017 at 9:50 pm)Regina Wrote: I'm just wondering, genuine question I'm not "judging" anyone I'm just curious to know, have there been many studies done on the effects hormone blockers might have on brain development at puberty?  

I'm sure the gender therapy doctors know more than all of us, but I just can't imagine it's that healthy and harmless, considering the stuff your head goes through as a teenager already without hormones.

I suppose time will tell as the first kids to try it get older.

That's a bit mixed up, in the sense that the stuff that goes through your head in puberty is because of the hormones, it's not without the hormones.  A child going through puberty with hormone blockers would be the one without the hormones I imagine.  Just judging by the fact they're called hormone blockers, not that I know much about them.

But I'd be skeptical about if their use is healthy even with a medical approval.

I wouldn't shun medical intervention when it's reasonably useful but I don't think even medical professionals fully understand the intricate mechanisms and how everything effects everything else in the body totally.
It only takes a few decades sometimes for medical opinion to flip flop on ideas and I tend to think sticking as close to nature as you can is a pretty good idea a lot of the time.

I've thought about trying out steroids before but I don't like the idea of manipulating nature to the extent of messing around with hormones.  

Unless it's a situation where I as a man somehow started growing tits or something.  Then I'd say yeh do whatever you have to do with hormones to stop this.

(February 8, 2017 at 7:25 pm)Violet Wrote: Bella? 

I know of a Blaire White I could turn you onto if you want to listen to right wing talking points, and want to hear it straight from another damn tranny

I like Blaire as well, don't always agree with her on everything though.

Yup once the word Cuck is used I know I'm dealing with a rightwing fringaloon

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Blaire White the less I sat about her/him the better

(February 8, 2017 at 7:54 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Ooh, you're even using "cuck" now.  Your induction into simple-minded, teenage internet politics is complete.

You don't believe in chemtrails?  Goddamn commie.  Next you'll be telling me that climate change is man-made, the Denver airport isn't a hub for the New World Order and the government can't actually steer tornadoes with their super-secret technology.

It's an absolutely wonderful word, of course I'm usin it

If the government could steer tornadoes: why not actively use the technology? I'm not gonna lie to you about global warming, tho

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(February 9, 2017 at 1:28 am)Bella Morte Wrote: I like Blaire as well, don't always agree with her on everything though.

So you're Bella! Nice to meat you ^_^

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(February 9, 2017 at 2:05 am)Orochi Wrote: Yup once the word Cuck is used I know I'm dealing with a rightwing fringaloon

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Blaire White the less I sat about her/him the better

That'd be a 'her', Orochi. 

What's an attractive woman with an easy C cup gotta do for a little recognition 'round here? 

(February 9, 2017 at 5:24 am)Violet Wrote: So you're Bella! Nice to meat you ^_^

Nice to meet you too!  

(February 8, 2017 at 7:25 pm)Violet Wrote: I know of a Blaire White I could turn you onto if you want to listen to right wing talking points, and want to hear it straight from another damn tranny

I get my right wing talking points exclusively from "trannies", it seems. Odd.

(February 8, 2017 at 9:29 pm)Sterben Wrote: You make a good point about being checked out by many doctors of different specializations in order to properly diagnosis the condition. Which can be expensive and not covered by most HMO'S or PPO'S. Disagree with me all you want, but I don't think these cost should be covered by tax payers. If you have private insurance then it be up to the company if they cover such services. Besides that though, when you hear about these stories of a nine year old, or a eleven year old getting hormonal treatment. It's really messed up, these children have not even hit puberty yet. It's not my call to make, parents have the options to raise their children as they like. I do disagree with going that option so early in life. I would say at least wait until the age of sixteen to start any type of treatment in regards to hormone therapy.

Why would I ever disagree with that?! I sure as HELL don't want anyone else paying for this crap... sure, it's probably injust that I've got to deal with it in the first place, and sure, I won't be able to work for at least 6 months (which is fine in my specific case, but I can see how it'd be a problem for others)... but with a little bit of intelligent fiscal planning I believe it can and should be done by the person suffering (or those who immediately support them). I mean... family has become so fucking meaningless with this shove towards its dissolution with welfare I don't want your money, and I don't want to lose 2000 dollars a year of my paycheck on a stupid insurance scam that has never done me any favors!

I really miss buying my medicines for 400 fewer dollars than what they tack onto my damn healthcare stupidity every month... our socialized healthcare where the government pocket is limitless and businesses know it has cause out-of-control rises for service if I want to get off of the government teet (I do). Something really has to be done, it's completely unacceptable (and to try and fucking tax me for not being on it?! Fucking shame!!). Little digression there... back to the meat:

I might argue down to 14 myself, but I couldn't see going too much lower than that. Puberty has a great degree of potential to change a personality, and the introduction of sexual interest in people allows for us to know pretty close to for certain (ya wanna pork or ya wanna get porked? )

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(February 8, 2017 at 9:50 pm)Regina Wrote: I'm just wondering, genuine question I'm not "judging" anyone I'm just curious to know, have there been many studies done on the effects hormone blockers might have on brain development at puberty?  

I'm sure the gender therapy doctors know more than all of us, but I just can't imagine it's that healthy and harmless, considering the stuff your head goes through as a teenager already without hormones.

I suppose time will tell as the first kids to try it get older.

It's one of the biggest problems I have with treating transgendered people: there are huge holes in the science, and we cannot state for certain exactly what causes transsexualism in the first place. We need way more information than we have.

Right now, I say we need to be very careful with how far back we push... there's been too much harm done in the name of expediting medical care without full grasp of the cause in otherwise nonlethal cases. If transtrenders are anything to go by: we're gonna be seeing a shit ton of hormonally fluctuating trans-wannabes over the next few years. I know a couple of people myself who've started and stopped hormones after a few years... if adults can be that fucking indecisive and crazy, then how fucking kooky could a kid get?