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Your friendly neighborhood heathen  Religious Views: I am the creator goddess. Prove me wrong. (February 9, 2017 at 10:26 am)ukatheist Wrote: They could build the wall [emoji38] Yeah, this is exactly the sort of thing that is making me hesitate. It doesn't even have to be the wall. It can be any government movement you are against. Being required to pay taxes for government action you disagree with is one thing. Being forced to personally work on them is a whole other monster entirely. I'm going to have to vote no on this one. RE: National Service
February 9, 2017 at 10:31 am
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2017 at 10:33 am by The Grand Nudger.)
As another poster mentioned, we already do it for the military (and more, va home loans, va car insurance, access to base px.....the benefits are sweet, lol)
@Jester You -are- personally working on whatever your taxes pay for...where else did the tax money come from? 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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February 9, 2017 at 10:32 am
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(February 9, 2017 at 10:26 am)ukatheist Wrote: They could build the wall [emoji38] You've given me an idea. For our country, those who choose construction would be used to strengthen the wall and fences in Calais first, then used to build more social housing. Those who choose military service could be used to patrol it, along with any other entry points into the UK. RE: National Service
February 9, 2017 at 10:35 am
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2017 at 10:35 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You know how you could quickly get all the people you'd need to build your little fence? Get those refugees into the civil service.
Service confers citizenship.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Jesster
Your friendly neighborhood heathen Religious Views: I am the creator goddess. Prove me wrong. (February 9, 2017 at 10:31 am)Khemikal Wrote: @Jester It's still entirely different. Hands-on vs hands-off. Just paying taxes still allows you to pursue other lines of work in areas you do support.
Yeah, it lets you feel better, granted.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (February 9, 2017 at 10:35 am)Khemikal Wrote: You know how you could quickly get all the people you'd need to build your little fence? Get those refugees into the civil service.Ahh, but for a lot of jobs in the UKCS you have to have UK or at least commonwealth nationality to begin with. RE: National Service
February 9, 2017 at 10:37 am
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(February 9, 2017 at 10:36 am)Bella Morte Wrote:(February 9, 2017 at 10:35 am)Khemikal Wrote: You know how you could quickly get all the people you'd need to build your little fence? Get those refugees into the civil service. Well, it does here. What's the problem? If service for a government doesn't confer citizenship then what possibly could>? (February 9, 2017 at 10:37 am)ukatheist Wrote: Ahh, but for a lot of jobs in the UKCS you have to have UK or at least commonwealth nationality to begin with. Seems counterproductive. A larger civil service would be capable of handling bigger infrastructure projects and thus creating more wealth with which to reinvest in the same. It also provides a hell of a practical way to deal with immigration and refugees.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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February 9, 2017 at 10:46 am
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(February 9, 2017 at 10:37 am)Khemikal Wrote: Well, it does here. What's the problem? Plenty of people here that can do it and prisoners to use for other general labour. Anyone attempting to enter the country illegally via Calais should be returned to France immediately. A limited amount of child (actual children, not 25 year olds) refugees without parents and other family should be allowed in but they shouldn't be granted citizenship and should return home once ISIS are dealt with. |
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