(February 17, 2017 at 10:07 am)Jehanne Wrote: Hillary may run again for reelection:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2017/Pr...tml#item-4

I wonder when Trump is going to start referring to her again as a "crook"??

Democrats would have to be stupid to nominate Hillary again. Don't think she would even do well in the primaries. The only person Trump can beat.

Quote:There is nothing new about suggesting that Donald Trump might not have the ideal temperament to be the head of state of the most powerful nation on the planet. What is new is the growing sense that he might not have the mental capacity. In the latest edition of the New York Review of Books, the highly respected commentator Elizabeth Drew writes: ‘Trump’s possible mental deficiencies are ... a troubling question: serious medical professionals suspect he has narcissistic personality disorder, and also oncoming dementia, judging from his limited vocabulary. (If one compares his earlier appearances on YouTube, for example a 1988 interview with Larry King, it appears that Trump used to speak more fluently and coherently than he does now, especially in some of his recent rambling presentations

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/robin-lu..._hp_ref=uk

So the US voted in a demented narcissist .

Clap clap clap

(February 17, 2017 at 10:07 am)Jehanne Wrote: Hillary may run again for reelection:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2017/Pr...tml#item-4

I wonder when Trump is going to start referring to her again as a "crook"??

The day they nominate Hillary again is the day I'm done with the Democratic party

The republicunts said that about Nixon in 1960.  Should have gone with their first instincts.

(February 17, 2017 at 1:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The republicunts said that about Nixon in 1960.  Should have gone with their first instincts.

Say what you will, but Nixon at least didn't surround himself with hand picked idiots.

(February 17, 2017 at 12:59 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

Quote:There is nothing new about suggesting that Donald Trump might not have the ideal temperament to be the head of state of the most powerful nation on the planet. What is new is the growing sense that he might not have the mental capacity. In the latest edition of the New York Review of Books, the highly respected commentator Elizabeth Drew writes: ‘Trump’s possible mental deficiencies are ... a troubling question: serious medical professionals suspect he has narcissistic personality disorder, and also oncoming dementia, judging from his limited vocabulary. (If one compares his earlier appearances on YouTube, for example a 1988 interview with Larry King, it appears that Trump used to speak more fluently and coherently than he does now, especially in some of his recent rambling presentations

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/robin-lu..._hp_ref=uk

So the US voted in a demented narcissist .

Clap clap clap

A huffington post blog! Wow, credible. Although I despise Trump, I also hate the trillion violations of the goldwater rule, which is an APA guideline that says you can't diagnose a public official with a mental condition without a personal examination. This is both a scientific stance and a obviously practical political stance, because otherwise political partisans would diagnose every politician with Narcissistic personality disorder. It's almost a prerequisite of the job. Serious medical professionals all know the Goldwater rule however, so of course that whole blog post is nonsense. The last thread here that made that claim, the 'serious medical professional' (I think they used that exact term) ran a hypnotherapy office in New Jersey.

Being against Trump doesn't mean you have to believe everything negative said about him, especially when it clearly is something that goes against scientific guidelines established by the leading psychological institute in the US.

(February 17, 2017 at 11:47 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(February 17, 2017 at 10:07 am)Jehanne Wrote: Hillary may run again for reelection:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2017/Pr...tml#item-4

I wonder when Trump is going to start referring to her again as a "crook"??

Democrats would have to be stupid to nominate Hillary again. Don't think she would even do well in the primaries. The only person Trump can beat.

I'll be she'll get it.  Reagan was a 3-timer, and not just on marriages!

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(February 17, 2017 at 1:14 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(February 17, 2017 at 10:07 am)Jehanne Wrote: Hillary may run again for reelection:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2017/Pr...tml#item-4

I wonder when Trump is going to start referring to her again as a "crook"??

The day they nominate Hillary again is the day I'm done with the Democratic party

Go Greens!!

I have a question about the Goldwater Rule. Since Trump will NEVER get a personal exam, what are professionals who have what they feel are legit concerns to do? Sit on their hands while he causes extreme damage?

The Goldwater Rule isn't a command from God. Acting like it's a rule that must never be broken for any reason ever seems silly.
Sometimes people need to break rules, if they feel it is important enough.

Understanding Trump’s narcissism could be the key to opposing him

Quote:Making a formal diagnosis without an assessment would be misguided, but in some situations, I imagine psychiatrists would be obliged to make their concerns about a politician’s mental health known. If a public official was displaying clear signs of a serious mental illness such as psychosis and had not received the necessary help, psychiatrists should notify the relevant authorities for the sake of the individual as well as the public, so an assessment can be conducted. However, that is not the situation we are in and irrespective of the ethics of their assertions, those who believe that Trump has a mental illness are wrong for the clinical reasons outlined by Frances.

   Trump does have multiple narcissistic traits, he simply does not qualify for a diagnosis of the personality disorder

Trump does indeed have multiple narcissistic traits – the grandiose sense of self importance; the preoccupation with power, success and beauty; the need for admiration and the sense of entitlement – but without distress or impairment he simply does not qualify for a diagnosis of the personality disorder. Furthermore, the speculative diagnosis of malignant narcissism – said to include aspects of narcissism, sadism, psychopathy and aggression – is not recognised in either of the two major diagnostic manuals used by psychiatrists around the world, so should be disregarded. No “alternative diagnoses” allowed.

Quote:Declaring Trump mentally ill and calling for his removal may be erroneous and unethical, but we must not close the door on understanding his thinking and predicting his behaviour by shutting down the discourse around his personality.

(February 17, 2017 at 7:30 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Understanding Trump’s narcissism could be the key to opposing him

Quote:Making a formal diagnosis without an assessment would be misguided, but in some situations, I imagine psychiatrists would be obliged to make their concerns about a politician’s mental health known. If a public official was displaying clear signs of a serious mental illness such as psychosis and had not received the necessary help, psychiatrists should notify the relevant authorities for the sake of the individual as well as the public, so an assessment can be conducted. However, that is not the situation we are in and irrespective of the ethics of their assertions, those who believe that Trump has a mental illness are wrong for the clinical reasons outlined by Frances.

   Trump does have multiple narcissistic traits, he simply does not qualify for a diagnosis of the personality disorder

Trump does indeed have multiple narcissistic traits – the grandiose sense of self importance; the preoccupation with power, success and beauty; the need for admiration and the sense of entitlement – but without distress or impairment he simply does not qualify for a diagnosis of the personality disorder. Furthermore, the speculative diagnosis of malignant narcissism – said to include aspects of narcissism, sadism, psychopathy and aggression – is not recognised in either of the two major diagnostic manuals used by psychiatrists around the world, so should be disregarded. No “alternative diagnoses” allowed.

Quote:Declaring Trump mentally ill and calling for his removal may be erroneous and unethical, but we must not close the door on understanding his thinking and predicting his behaviour by shutting down the discourse around his personality.

The really scary thing is that Trump has the largest, most sophisticated nuclear arsenal in the World, and if he gives the order to launch, such must be obeyed without question.